Stupid Republican idea of the day

Your mostly evidence-free and cite-free attack.

If you think this President has acted unusually in how often he has claimed ignorance about something bad that happened, then show it – show how often he has done it, and show how often other presidents have done it.

Ah, that’s the point of your argument: that your argument is essentially cherry-picked bullshit? Well, you’ve made your point over and over, in that case.

That’s only because you’re asking for evidence of irrelevant things. The executive branch failures have been widely covered. So has his responses to them(“What? Huh?”) So have the media responses to them(“The President’s response was greeted with derision in the White House press room”)

If I’ve ever said he was the worst ever in this regard, or notably worse, I withdraw it, not because I don’t believe it, but because I don’t think at this point it’s worth the effort to find out for sure. But a President who has such high self regard for his own intelligence and who takes joy in making fun of those he considers less intelligent really shouldn’t be lecturing someone who has never avoided accountability but has generally been cheerful to accept it. No person is all bad or all good. This just happens to be one of the few areas where Trump is superior to Clinton or Obama. He has grown up in a culture of accountability going back to military school. Clinton and Obama have grown up in a culture where avoiding accountability is an art form. It’s one of the reasons voters hate politicians.

If they’ve been widely covered you should have no problem coming up for a cite for your claims. Any of them. One of them.

Particularly the “What? Huh?” and “The President’s response was greeted with derision in the White House press room” that you’ve just put in quotes as though it were something that actually happened.

And here’s Fox with a compilation of nine times the President was caught by surprise by his own administration’s actions:

I wouldn’t blame the President for three of those, because two of them are misreading of intelligence or intelligence failures, while another was an incident that couldn’t have been predicted. But six of them are things the President directly claimed ignorance of.

I know it’s Fox, but it’s well cited:

Only in politics is this kind of thing not all that damning. Although the public did react very negatively. Each story brought the President’s approval rating to new lows.

You’re trying to use Fox as evidence of the President’s malfeasance? Not exactly a reliable source.

I’d also note that Jon Stewart as a critic of this tactic:

But I thought you were saying that Obama was unusual in this regard. Are you now saying that this is pretty normal for Presidents?

No, just saying that with a few months left in his tenure I’m not interested in proving it. Right now I’m just interested in defending Trump’s tweet, which I thought was a pretty nice comeback. It’s sufficient to note that the President does not see ignorance as a problem in all cases. In fact, it can be very useful.

You have provided no evidence of this.

Good one, it needed to be said :smiley:

Soooooo. Your defense of Trump’s nonsensical tweet is that occasionally President Obama doesn’t know something, so therefore President Obama loves ignorance while Trump will fire people when he doesn’t know things?

Because that’s pretty stupid.

So, you’ve got nothing on President Obama.

The Donald is indefensible. (Hey, this is the Pit.) You picked a bad century to be a Republican.

Congressional Republicans are refusing to pass funding to fight the Zika virus unless the administration agrees to cuts to Obamacare.

What’s next?

Republicans bringing citizens into the Senate chambers and threatening to execute them one by one until their demands to destroy Obamacare are met?

My wife would be a natural. As a kid she would play “Man or Woman?” whenever she was bored. She tries to not play it as an adult because she decided it was a sin, but I helpfully list all the other reasons she’s going to Hell that she isn’t a bit sorry for, so she feels better and sometimes lets me play, too. Unfortunately, which bathroom they use is the decider, and few of the people realize the issue is in doubt.

The Texas GOP releases it’s party platform. While the whole thing is hilarious,9and scary as hell) one part could use rewording.

Yep. Most Texans are gay.

Ain’t nothing in Texas but steers and queers. Which are you? :slight_smile:

John McCain has a campaign ad attacking his Republican primary opponent for taking chemtrails seriously. Until the likely Democratic opponent in the general election dug up that McCain himself passed on a letter from a concerned constituent about chemtrails.