Wow. Your memory of the act shriveled up and vanished in the time it took you to type twenty-four or twenty-five (depending on how we count “doesn’t”) words?
Obviously, people are able to take such steps, or not, as they see fit. They have chosen “not”. Certain Big Government nanny-statist authoritarians wish to force them to do so, but they’re just SOL under modern political realities.
Maybe if you go back a bit further… “Ma, Ma, Where’s My Pa?”… hmmm, no, better try a bit further… “The tyrant’s heel is on thy shore / His torch is at thy temple door”… nah, still doesn’t sound terribly polite… “King Andrew the First” sounds regal, but I do detect an overtone of rudeness (accuracy, perhaps, but still rudeness) in the depiction of contempt for the Constitution…
In Starving’s defense, I think it’s a common human propensity to complain about ‘modern’ society and lament the differences from “the good old days”.
I know plenty of middle-aged liberals that do this: “Kids these days, with their phones and their twitters and their twinders. You call that music?!? In my day, all the Simons and the Garfunkels could sing, and not about their AK-47 bein’ a tool. And lazy? Quit tattooing your face even more ugly, pull your pants up and get a job!”
Of course, they love it when I point out that they’re saying the exact same stuff my Far-Rightie WW2 Vet dad was ranting about in the 50s…
I’m actually very encouraged by the facts that show that our natural curmudgeonliness is wrong, and that society isn’t spiralling into the crapper since the damn hippies took over and (Can I really be reading SA correctly?) enacted their Killing Policies. (Who knew second-hand pot smoke and sandalwood incense were fatal?)
Right. And another thing, say what you will about the beatniks, you never saw them fucking in the mud like hippies did. At least they appreciated poetry and a good cuppa joe.
And I’ve never said things were perfect in the old days. This is just another cheap trick in the bag of deniers trying to defend the state of things today. Truth is I’ve actually said just the opposite. Several times, in fact. But people like you would rather make fictitious claims because they’re easier to ridicule rather than argue against the real issue, which is that a great many things are worse now that didn’t need to be. But on to the rest of your post…
Crime is worse. (yep, skyrocketed post-hippie-dipshitery and has declined somewhat in recent years, but still higher than the 50s/early 60s period). You don’t get to yell yay over crime rates because they’ve gone down somewhat and only recently after having skyrocketed to begin with and stayed that way for decades.
Drug use is not up? (You gotta be kidding me. Hardly anyone was on drugs in the 50s and early 60s. Drugs, and their accompanying misery and crime, are everywhere now and have been for decades.
Out of wedlock children aren’t more common? (That’s funny. I thought your side was convinced that any woman who got pregnant out of wedlock in those days died from back alley abortions.) People everywhere are cohabiting and having kids before moving on the next green pasture. And still others are having kids while having never even cohabited. Still, I’m open to being proven wrong on this. Cite?
People were more respectful. (Yep, by far. Better educated and better raised too. Also less belligerent, vulgar and confrontational, see preceding sentence.)
Politics were more polite. (Meh. Maybe, maybe not. It’s public face was at least. Nowadays it’s easier to get down in the gutter in public because the gutter has become the norm.)
Why do I suspect you never lived back then? Oh, wait, just checked your profile. You were born in 1962! So how is that you know what things were like in those days? You either weren’t born yet or were a toddler and came of age when all this ridiculousity was becoming the norm.
The facts do not support your claims (the ones that have statistics, anyway). The murder rate now really is as low or lower than the 60s. The teen pregnancy rate is far, far lower now.
Here’s something to think about: You’ll never get those days back. Never. There’s too many liberals and we have far too much power now. You’re immune to reason, so I’m not going to try it with you. Just know that we’re going to change the world until you find it scary and evil and we’re going to keep going, much much further than you ever dreamed possible, so that your grandkids will be one of us and think you’re old and weird. And there’s nothing you can do to stop us
Both arguments are specious. Yes, the murder rate has remained constant. There are other crimes however and they’re the ones that enjoyed a tremendous increase since the late 60s. Surely you’re not trying to say murder is the only crime worth being concerned about?
And your teen pregnancy chart doesn’t differentiate between teens who were married during their pregnancies and those who weren’t, and the vast majority of teens getting pregnant and having kids in those days were married. The problem isn’t that teens are becoming pregnant. It’s that they’re becoming pregnant and having kids while unmarried and mostly likely unattached, and, like I said before, ill-equipped by their own upbringing to deal with raising kids properly themselves.
Please. Is it really necessary to make the point obvious that I was talking about illicit street drug use? How many people do you think were getting strung out and committing street crimes and violence and resorting to prostitution because of Valium?
Sure there is. Look at Trump. Look at Brexit. Look at most of the countries in Europe. Large segments of their populace remain conservative and their power and influence ebb and flow with the problematic consequences of their governments’ liberal policies. Common sense and an appreciation of how little liberal social and economic policies can withstand the realities of life will always result in there being a sizable percentage of the population that hews to the conservative point of view.