Gay people like lower taxes, less government, no abortions, and the death penalty too. To some people, making an uneasy deal with social conservatives isn’t as important as their other issues. You need only look at some of the posters here for that point of view (although I don’t believe any are actually gay). Those posters here who proclaim themselves to have absolutely nothing against homosexuals and may actually support gay marriage, tolerate the far right conservatives of their party’s clear animosity to homosexuals because of agreement on other issues.
I don’t know. I think being a Gay Republican is worse than being a Black Republican, which is pretty freaking ridiculous in my estimation, I don’t care what the party proclaims to offer.
If you’ve got a lot of money, the Republican party lets you hold on to more of it.
People will compromise anything for decent amounts of money.
It’s a matter of importance. As a pro-life liberal, I tend to support the Democrat party, even though I disagree with its stance on abortion. But my concerns with social justice, economic policies, not kowtowing to the whims of the super wealthy, not getting into idiotic wars based on misinformation and lies, and protection of individual rights are more important to me than supporting a party that is pro choice.
People prioritize things differently. And some gay people find they prioritize “low taxes, limited government, strong defense, free markets, personal responsibility, and individual liberty” more than same sex marriage or the rhetoric of social conservatives. Just like many posters on this board.
Yeah, of course I get that. I know what logic they throw behind it. It still doesn’t add up to me. It’s like a Jew favoring the Nazis – they may well have had great fiscal policies and amazing leadership, and gotten a lot of other issues right, but you’re still a second-class citizen, and I honestly don’t get what could possibly outweigh that.
Let me put this in a slightly different light. When the republicans actually take Santorum (a man who compares homosexuals to pedophiles as if he had a surplus of hateful rhetoric, and given the opportunity probably would support anti-sodomy laws) and Ron Paul (a man who thinks society was better off when Homosexuals were essentially forced into the closet or essentially socially unacceptable) seriously… That’s what I mean when I say “it doesn’t make sense”. They are voting for the party of people who aren’t just bigots, but are bigoted against them. I understand what their reasoning is, but I don’t understand how it makes the slightest lick of sense.
Except Republicans are demonstrably against all of those things.
But they pretend they are not. And some gay people are gullible enough to believe the PR lies that the Republicans broadcast.
I think it’s a stretch to say they are against strong defense.
It’s not a stretch. By spending more than the rest of the world combined on bloated military designed to fight 19th and 20th century wars, and idiotic adventures in the middle east instead of spending on our own infrastructure, we are stretched beyond our limits and could not actually GO to an important war should we actually need to. That is the opposite of a “strong defense”.
There is no way Iran would be rattling their sabres at us if they didn’t know that Americans are sick of stupid wars and military adventurism already for example.
edit: Okay according to wikipedia we only spend 43% of the world’s military expeditures but “more than the rest of the world combined” is not far off and it’s a shame not just to this country but humanity IMO.
If attacking Iran turns out to be inevitable, I’d rather the dems do it. I think it’d be cheaper, make more sense and so on.
aWAG THE DOG! WAG THE DOG! NATION BUILDING!
What’s really shameful is the kind of shit you end up with after spending that kind of money.
BTW, does this 43% include merc…I mean private military contractor expenses and such, or just DoD funding ?
The vast majority of military contractors are paid for by DoD funding (PDF).
I was asking specifically because [del]Blackwater[/del] [del]Xe[/del] [del]Academi[/del] Whatever It’s Going To Call Itself By The Time I’m Done Typing has apparently been re-upped for work in Afghanistan by the State Department. I figure, if the DoS is funding some mercs, it could be funding a whole slew of them.
I think a group of mercenaries is called a murder, rather than a slew.
It’s money. The gays who favor Republicans are making a cold calculation that the Republicans well institute policies that will allow them to stay wealthy more easily than Dems will, and that the advantages that will accrue to them with wealth far outweigh any disadvantages caused by opprobrious legislation aimed at gays. They are probably right, but of course they are throwing all non-wealthy gay people under the bus, so they are still morally … evil.
Trouble with that line of reasoning is that even with Democratic Party policies it’s not that difficult for the already-wealthy to stay wealthy.
Wealthy people don’t just want to stay wealthy, they want to get wealthier.
Having a lot of mercenaries at your disposal is nothing to crow about.
That Blackwater, Xe, whatever the fuck ever existed is bad enough. That they continue to exist despite their record is a national disgrace.