Its show business. That’s how he makes his living.
A desperate man, indeed.
Nonsense; I clearly described a scenario implying a religiously-motivated lifestyle choice. Are you one of those bigots who dismisses pious Christians as “largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command”?
Even if your argument didn’t fall apart upon examination, it is irrelevant – either one can justify charging extra for connecting to the power grid while tapping it just a little, or one cannot.

So says the 300 lb lardass about the healthiest, thinnest, and happiest state in the country. What a maroon.
More from Christie on the subject:
“You say it’s going to come down the road. You know when it may come down the road? When I’m gone. Because it’s not gonna come while I’m here.”
Your proposal is acceptable.

Generally speaking, the wealthy pay a share of taxes higher than their commensurate share of income
Such statistics should usually be mistrusted: Sales tax, payroll taxes, gasoline taxes are usually ignored in such comparisons. Farming subsidies that benefit the rich are not subtracted; and so on.
Of course these distinctions can be spun: When you tax the dividends of the rich, you’re sapping the spirit of Job Creators and making them want to dissipate their wealth so they can enjoy suckling at the teat like their more fortunate, because more poor, fellows. Payroll taxes, OTOH, are a useful device for those too stupid to become Job Creators, or otherwise evade government taxation, and provide a stopgap for these inferior beings who would otherwise be suckling at the rich taxpayers’ teats.
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Especially amusing are the many right-wing pundits who whine that the 1% pay more total taxes than ever, as if that pointed to increasing equality. :smack: Even a sixth-grader would probably figure out that the 1%'s taxes are going up because their income is going up.

In addition to the points that Robot Arm brought up, this seems totally normal. Name one product or service where you can sell it to a business for the same cost that you’d buy it from the business. Gas? Gold? Milk? Dreams? Nope, nope, nope.
When the purveyors of gas, gold, milk, or dreams are allowed to engage in a state-sanctioned monopoly, then i will worry about those products.
Electricity is, in most markets, a monopoly business, and for decades society has recognized that being allowed to operate as a monopoly places the providers of utility services like electricity under certain obligations that do not apply to businesses that operate in a regular, competitive market.
The fact that you are willing to pretend that the electricity market works like the market for milk suggests either willful disingenuousness, or ignorance.
Chris Christie named Father of the Year! (Not by the GOP or any Republican organization – you need to read the article to understand why that is a SRIOTD.)

Chris Christie named Father of the Year! (Not by the GOP or any Republican organization – you need to read the article to understand why that is a SRIOTD.)
Didn’t he fly to one of his sons’ football games in a helicopter? Nothing can be cooler than that! And I’ll bet you he gets a hooker for his son’s 18th birthday – best dad ever!

Didn’t he fly to one of his sons’ football games in a helicopter? Nothing can be cooler than that! And I’ll bet you he gets a hooker for his son’s 18th birthday – best dad ever!
NO, Chris Christtie did NOT fly to one of his sons’ football games in a helicopter. That would be totally unacceptable and a ridiculous waste of taxpayer funds; no responsible governor would use the state’s law enforcement assets for such a trivial display of power and stature as flying in to attend a high school football game.

Christians must pull their children out of “Godless” (and socialist) public schools.
Let’s see.
Dogmatic, willfully ignorant, afraid of modern education, and convinced that they are fighting a righteous war against heathens.
I wonder if these people realize how much they have in common with Boko Haram?

Chris Christie named Father of the Year! (Not by the GOP or any Republican organization – you need to read the article to understand why that is a SRIOTD.)
I know why Rosenberg drives me nucking futs. And Wagner too.
“Ignoring things being yelled at you” is nowhere close to “ignoring your kids.”
That’s a really weak fucking limb to stand on and attempt to paint Christie as a lousy dad.

I know why Rosenberg drives me nucking futs. And Wagner too.
“Ignoring things being yelled at you” is nowhere close to “ignoring your kids.”
That’s a really weak fucking limb to stand on and attempt to paint Christie as a lousy dad.
Huh. I wouldn’t have thought it was controversial that Christie ignoring his kids when they yell at him also means that (at times) Christie is ignoring his kids.

Huh. I wouldn’t have thought it was controversial that Christie ignoring his kids when they yell at him also means that (at times) Christie is ignoring his kids.
I’m sorry, I honestly can’t tell if you’re being snarky.
If that’s the standard we’re talking about, then every single parent who has ever lived is guilty of being “crummy.”

I know why Rosenberg drives me nucking futs. And Wagner too.
“Ignoring things being yelled at you” is nowhere close to “ignoring your kids.”
That’s a really weak fucking limb to stand on and attempt to paint Christie as a lousy dad.
You are missing the point of the story, and a very important point it is.
This is not just an idle qubble over Christie’s parenting style. As cognitive linguist George Lakoff argued in “Moral Politics” 18 years ago (my review), parenting models lie at the core of the liberal/conservative divide in American politics, helping to explain how positions on disparate subjects, from abortion to taxes to foreign policy, all hang together as parts of a coherent whole, and offering significant insight into their hidden dynamics.
Lakoff explained the workings of cognitive metaphors, developed in earlier works, such as “Metaphors We Live By,” co-authored with philosopher Mark Johnson. That 1980 book illuminated a variety of ways in which relatively familiar, concrete experiential realms (source domains) are systematically mapped onto relatively less familiar, more abstract realms (target domains). “Moral Politics” sprang from two additional insights. First, the realization that family life can serve as a common-sense source domain for how we think about the target domain of national politics — reflecting in phrases like “founding fathers,” “shared inheritance,” “legacy for our children,” etc. Second, Lakoff realized that liberals and conservatives used two different family models for fleshing out these mappings in greater detail.
Conservatives follow the “strict father” model, one that sets strict rules and expects them to be followed — no questions asked. Liberals follow the “nurturant parent” model, one that’s far more interactive and responsive to children’s growing autonomy — though quite distinct and different from the stereotypes of indulgent or permissive parenting that conservatives mistakenly see as the only alternative to their parenting style.
This wasn’t just an arbitrary claim on Lakoff’s part. His framework for discussing parenting styles was a multi-decade research project, originally pioneered by Diana Baumrind, beginning in 1966-67, and built on by others. Baumrind identified two key polarities in shaping parenting styles: responsive vs. unresponsive and demanding vs. undemanding. What Baumdind calls “authoritarian parenting” and Lakoff calls the “strict father” style is demanding and unresponsive — not listening to the children, just as Christie described himself. What Baumrind calls “authoritative parenting” and Lakoff calls the “nurturant parent” style is demanding and responsive” — not only listening to children, but adjusting to their growing capacity for autonomy and self-knowledge, creating a graduated environment for developing from childhood to adulthood.
The conservative boogeyman of “permissive” or “indulgent” parenting represents a third style, which Baumrind identified as responsive and undemanding. A fourth style, identified by Maccoby and Martin in 1983, is neglectful parenting — undemanding and unresponsive. Conservatives conveniently assume that permissive or neglectful parenting are the only alternatives to their approach, but they are mistaken. The crucial difference between liberals and conservatives does not revolve around the existence of high standards, but around responsiveness to children in the process of meeting them.
Pretending that it’s all a matter of standards, nothing more, lies close to the heart of all conservatives. For social conservatives, those standards are conventional morality. For religious conservatives, they come from God. For more secular conservatives, they derive from the struggle to survive, either in the marketplace for economic conservatives, or on the battlefield for foreign policy conservatives.
But saying that standards alone don’t capture everything is profoundly threatening to their simplified worldview. They are already afraid of the unknown, of complexity, and of having to make morally challenging choices. Explicitly adding the dimension of responsiveness is more threatening still — not least because responsiveness in political terms is the hallmark of liberal political theory, and modern, secular, democratic governance, the most basic foundations of the modern liberal world, which conservatives have been in rebellion against since the time of Burke and de Maistre.

You are missing the point of the story, and a very important point it is.
No, I got it. And if you want to write a story about “conservative” vs. “liberal” parenting styles, awesome. But calling him a “crummy father” and transforming “I have a finely-honed skill to ignore things that are being yelled at me” into simply “a finely-honed skill to ignore things, including his children” are not useful to the point, IMO.
There may, as Rosenberg claims, be some “ugly truths” to “conservative parenting,” and it might well be a productive discussion. But one comment, aggressively misrepresented and overblown, is an insufficient launching pad for that discussion.

You are missing the point of the story, and a very important point it is.
I’m not sure that he is.
The article is supposed to be about Christie then goes of on a rant about conservative\liberal styles without saying really anything about Christie’s parenting. He paints with a very wide brush, as if no conservative fathers can be nurturing and no liberal fathers can be dicks.
He may have a larger point to make about parenting styles and which are better\more successful and may have some data to back it up…but what does that have to do with Christie and FOY?
Ninja’d, dammit

…but what does that have to do with Christie and FOY?
Or, indeed, with a parental policy of not responding to shouting?
That’s what’s bugging me here the most, honestly. I set a policy when my child was young of simply ignoring anything he chose to shout, yell, or scream at me. (Within reason, natch; I would respond to “Oh god oh god the bees they’re everywhere!”)
This is not, IMNSHO, unreasonable. Nor does it mean I am not a bleeding heart caring nurturer, as a parent or a person.
When someone decides to paint that as “andros ignores his child!” I’mma be a little pissed.
Ninja’d, dammit
I’m not going to engage with you until you calm down and speak in a polite voice.

They hope to attract 1,000 people to some fairgrounds in Iowa? Yeah, sounds about right for a Tea Party version of Woodstock.

No, I got it. And if you want to write a story about “conservative” vs. “liberal” parenting styles, awesome. But calling him a “crummy father” and transforming “I have a finely-honed skill to ignore things that are being yelled at me” into simply “a finely-honed skill to ignore things, including his children” are not useful to the point, IMO.
There may, as Rosenberg claims, be some “ugly truths” to “conservative parenting,” and it might well be a productive discussion. But one comment, aggressively misrepresented and overblown, is an insufficient launching pad for that discussion.

I’m not sure that he is.
The article is supposed to be about Christie then goes of on a rant about conservative\liberal styles without saying really anything about Christie’s parenting. He paints with a very wide brush, as if no conservative fathers can be nurturing and no liberal fathers can be dicks.
He may have a larger point to make about parenting styles and which are better\more successful and may have some data to back it up…but what does that have to do with Christie and FOY?
Ninja’d, dammit
I used to be a newspaper reporter and take it from me, a news hook is a news hook.

They hope to attract 1,000 people to some fairgrounds in Iowa? Yeah, sounds about right for a Tea Party version of Woodstock.
“Stay away from the brown Bibles! Bummer, man…”