Stupid Republican idea of the day

The guys that didn’t get elected are the ones who ran away from Obama in their messaging. It would be more like “thanks for being counted in our caucus for two years but not actually voting for any of our policies.”

They ran away from his policies because that was their only viable option. I see that the internet is calling his statement a “sick burn” but I’d say that a lot of jobless Democrats would also take it that way. He put them in an untenable position and they paid the price, not him. He’s like a major who orders his men up a hill where they all die but him and then he pats himself on the back for his grand victory.

If he costs Clinton the 2016 election I expect Democrats will finally figure out that his political talents were solely beneficial to his own self-promotion rather than moving the country in a more progressive direction. Bush was elected President twice(once?) too, but you’ll see few conservatives arguing that he was beneficial to the Republican party.

Since this is the stupid Republican idea thread, I’ll just say that the “sick burn” was justified in response to Republicans applauding that he had no more campaigns ahead of him. What we saw was two classless sides showing again that they are still classless.

Ernst is the new Bachmann

Bachmann, McDonnell, Jindal, Rubio, Ernst…the role of “GOP SOTU Rebutter” must be one of those positions where you really don’t want to leave the room to pee during the organizational meeting to pick someone…

GOP official SOTU rebutter is to politicos as Campbell’s Soup commercial endorser is to NFL QBs.

So you’re saying that they were voted out for not supporting Obama enough?

It is quite amazing, i’ll admit, that so many Democrats lost their jobs at a time when actual, national unemployment rates were at their lowest in years, the economy was (according to multiple indicators) on a significant upswing, more Americans had health coverage than ever before in history, medical inflation was at its lowest level in decades, and gas prices were at their lowest since 2009. I can completely understand why people might have looked around and said, “Hey, who the fuck is responsible for all this prosperity? We need to kick their asses out!”

It just goes to show what happens when you have the lowest election turnout (as a percentage of the population) since 1942: it’s mainly retired Fox News watchers who get to the polls. This swing between presidential elections, when a wider proportion of younger, more liberal voters turn out, and mid-terms, where it’s the true believers and the oldies, will be a problem for America for a while, if some political analysts are to be believed.

It also goes further to demonstrate what has become something of a problematic issue for Democrats: almost everyone recognizes that Democratic policies are economically more beneficial for the vast majority of the population so, paradoxically, the Dems can do best when the economy is in the shitter, because plenty of people trust them to at least make an effort to help average and poorer Americans.

But when the economy is doing just fine, it pays off for the GOP to focus on the wedge social and cultural issues like brown people and the border, gay marriage, “inner city” blight (you know the code, right?), and other dog-whistle politics, and also to pretend that Democratic foreign policy is somehow less manly and tough than Republican chickenhawkism.

That’s old news though. What happened in 2010 and 2014 was a repudiation of Obama. 2014 has actually been known as a race that was pretty much about nothing. There were no wedge issues, just a referendum on the President and pretty much nothing else.

Is there no level of sophistry that you won’t stoop to?

Every single political issue is interpreted by you in a way that conveniently supports your own political outlook. Your dishonesty is staggering.

You really think the Republicans exploited social issues to win in 2014?

And such a major gets to do that, too, if he took the hill. Ulysses Grant won a lot of battles by pouring out his men’s blood like water. It is hard to see how the Union could have won the war any other way.

Really?

No, that is not a legacy that will be bad for the Democratic Party or the United States.

Well said. You realize, of course, that this troll tries to derail every fucking thread into the adaher masturbation hour, right? He’s managed to drive this one off the rails for several pages now. Perhaps ignoring the fucker when he does this would be appropriate, so we can get back to pointing out the insanity of the inmates of the mental institution that is the present Republican party.

There is so much wrong with this post and taking the time to dispute all of your drivel would be about as productive as arguing with a lawn chair.

I’ll just ask - have you seen the President’s approval rating lately? In the sixth year of the Bush presidency it was about 31 percent. By comparison, Obama is around 50% right now, and that was before the speech, which typically gives a small boost. I expect it will continue to climb, which makes your “lowest ebb” comment laughable.

I’m sure the 2014 election gave you reason to celebrate, but it wasn’t a surprise. Voter apathy is common during the midterms. But if you think for a second that we aren’t going to turn out in droves to ensure that the keys to the White House don’t get handed back to the Koch Brothers, you may be in for a surprise.

Democratic predictions that their voters will turn out in droves tend to come true only when Barack Obama is at the top of the ticket. I especially recall such predictions in 2004.

Yeah, basically every time i engage him i feel like i’ve taken troll-bait again. I should know better by now.

Do you recall them in 2006?

Joni Ernst’s family sucks on the federal teat.

That can buy a lot of bread wrappers.

The Democrats won, but that’s because independents turned towards them. They still failed to turn out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/23/AR2006102300766.html