dalej42, are you talking about Bernie Bros, or about supporters of Sanders? There’s very little overlap between the two groups, and Sanders has no influence at all over what the Bernie Bros say. Trump might have some, depending on how grateful Putin is to him.
My point still stands.
The overall state vote allocates the majority of the delegates. In districts, candidates can rise or fall above or below the 15% threshold. Unless that is consistent statewide, the picking off of a delegate here or there is the difference between dick or fuck all.
Still haven’t heard any definitive statements but it seems as if Bloomy and Warren have underperformed.
Rove says Bloomy has made bank in NC and AL. (IOW 15%)
Oh, yeah. I was just saying Hey, she got one…
It’s the little things, dontcha think?
Donna Brazile states that Bloomy will get less than 100 delegates tonight, perhaps leaking exit polls.
NBC now says Biden has taken an early Lead in Mass, with Warren running third.
It’s shaping up to be a long night for her.
I know the big interest tonight is the Democratic presidential contest, but here in Alabama we have a race on for the Senate, with a number of Republicans vying to knock off Doug Jones, the Democrat that won in 2018 after Jeff Sessions left to become head of the Justice Department (and we all know how well that went) and the Republicans, showing that they can goof up nominees too, lost with Roy “10 Commandments/Youth Molestation Charges” Moore. No less than seven candidates are up tonight, trying to squeeze into a runoff, including Mr. Sessions himself, Millionaire businessman Stan Adair, ex-Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville, and of course, eager for a rematch, Ol’Roy Moore himself. All the candidate have tried to protray themselves as more firmly attached to Trump than the others, and making comments on how trump doesn’t trust Session, who is still probably going to win the primary and the general election (this is Alabama, remember). Only question is who finishes second and will it go to a runoff.
Not much Democratic interest here (Biden is projected to win), but how the Senate looks in 2020 is also going to be very important, and this is a seat the Democrats are probably favored to lose unless the Alabama Republicans shoot themselves in the feets again.
We shall see.
watching Washington Post live stream of coverage on Youtube. All I can say right now is I cannot believe how pathetic, how weak, how utterly FEEBLE, Mike Bloomberg is. He is truly delusional talking about his plan to beat Donald Trump. It’s madness. Lunacy! I cannot believe what I’m witnessing. He is such a narcissistic asshole. He has all the money in the world but NO balls, NO swagger, NO fire, NO heart. Fuck him.
Just saying, but if Trump wins in November it might be good to have Sessions as one of the Republican Senators.
Then why did Sanders hire the trolls he did? Sanders owns the Bros.
One bit of party-wide good news - AFAICT from various online sources, Democratic turnout is way, way up since '16. Sometimes in the 538 live blog said that VA turnout was up by 67%! So that’s great news. I think Biden is a very, very weak candidate, but if he gets the nomination I hope I’m wrong.
It doesn’t in actual states. The majority of delegates are determined in the districts. American Samoa is different. They determine all delegates at the territory level since they don’t have congressional districts.
Taking VA as an example …since it was the first state I saw called tonight. Of their 99 total pledged delegates 65 are selected at the district level. (cite)
As a rough rule of thumb, only about 1/3 of delegates are determined at large/statewide.
That’s why Biden isn’t running alone, and won’t be through the rest of this primary slog.
The sooner Biden can lock up that 1,991, the sooner we’ll get back to the Biden/Obama buddy movie. It will run throughout the general election. Meantime, surrogates Klobuchar (soon to be Veep, I’ve said so for ages), Buttegieg, O’Rourke, Harris, Clyburn, Bloomberg, Steyer, Booker, Inslee et. al will fan out all across the country, giving Biden the help he needs to finish up this campaign.
Biden will be a fine president. He governs far better than he campaigns.
I, too, am very relieved to hear about the turnout numbers. This is going to be a turnout election. The theme is basic human decency.
It is good news, but we may want to take moderate expectations. The Primary is a lot more competitive this year than it was in 2016, so one would expect it would generate more interest.
You’re missing the point if you believe he really believes he’s in the race; Bloomy knows he was probably done before tonight. Don’t judge Bloomberg’s words; judge his money and his messaging in his ads going forward. Bloomberg paid $500 mil, which will mean something. He doesn’t necessarily get to be the pilot, but he gets to sit in the cockpit.
You’re right, but inordinately high turnout has held steady ever since Trump set foot in the Oval Office. I think people are paying more attention than we generally give them credit for.
That said, foot on the gas all the way through November. Complacency is not an option.
Results are showing a strong trend. Certainly now it is time for Warren and Bloomberg to bow out.
Sanders will likely win California and he could win Texas, but Super Tuesday belongs to Joe Biden.
Oh, Warren can stay in.
As another Doper pointed out, that 15% threshold is important because anything less than that (in a district or a state) means those votes simply never existed. If we assume for now (though it isn’t quite true) that all Warren votes would have gone to Sanders, and all Bloomberg votes would have gone to Biden, then those sub-15% “disappeared” votes matter. (We assume the Bloomberg and Warren delegates will eventually go to Biden and Sanders, respectively).
In Tennessee, for example, Warren’s votes — and thus (we’re assuming here) some Sanders votes - are poof, gone, while Bloomberg’s — and this some of Biden’s — are intact, because Bloomberg cleared 15% in that state. In some other state (like Massachusetts) it might go the other way. In yet another, neither Bloomberg nor Warren clears 15%, but one of them has more votes than the other, and thus bad news for their ideological “partner.”