I loved the Cas-centered episode.
Ken Lay is in heaven!
Castiel was such a mess, though. (Albeit an adorable mess.) He should either be upfront, or else try to lie with confidence. Maybe angels aren’t good at that? He needed to be snuggled or slapped or something. I felt so bad for everyone, with the broken trust issues.
The demon guy on the all the “phones” was pretty funny.
What’s up with purgatory? Neither the angels nor the demons know where it is? Why?
Presumably because it’s neither Heaven nor Hell both angels and demons would have had any dealings with it before, unlike the other two it’s purely for mortals. I’ll be interested to see whether the writers will associate Purgatory with Limbo. Traditionally they’re separate places, with Limbo being specifically for souls who are without grace through no fault of their own, the souls of babies who died before baptism, etc.
Oh, that makes sense. I was envisioning it as a kind of sub-basement of heaven.
What do they mean by “full night event season finale”? a finale followed by a bunch of reruns all night long?
The finale is 2 hours long. I assume that is what they meant by full night event.
Purgatory is where the “souls” of all the monsters go, vampires, werewolves, etc. Thats why earlier in the season they were hunting the originals of the monsters - they had been set free and grandpa Samuel, Crowley, etc were capturing and torturing them to try to get them to reveal the location of purgatory.
Now we find out the reason why is that souls are kinda like currency and both heaven and hell want those souls to give their respective sides more power - Castiel wants them to help defeat Raphael and Crowley wants them for unknown reasons but presumably to shore up more power as the king of hell.
It’s actually the final two one-hour episodes on one night. It’s because of the Smallville finale next week.
The great thing is that his name was “Ellsworth” (Jim Beaver’s character’s name in “Deadwood”).
I liked the Cas-centered episode as well, but it still seems not quite thought through.
Re: the Tower of Babel: “Admittedly it was only 37 feet tall but it seemed impressive at the time. And it wasn’t destroyed by God’s wrath but the fact mud and dung bricks only last so long in rainy season.”
[not precise but paraphrased]
Demon Bobby was hilarious. I really liked the call back to the demons using cups or bowls filled with blood as a communication device.
Because the writers hadn’t invented it until this season.
I skimmed some fan site and a major topic of conversation was speculating what all the numbers meant, like the 37 feet and the number for who was being “served” in hell. Is this just a way some fans amuse themselves, or do the writers actually put numbers in with some hidden significance? The fans were trying to relate them to episode numbers and bible verses and such.
It seems like the kind of show (aware of and responsive to the audience) that if the writers saw people happily doing their numerology thing, they might respond by putting in some actual meaningful numbers?
Is anyone one else tired of Dean’s self-righteous streak?
Castiel’s actual Babel quote- better than I remembered:
Also the Crowley quote I loved while he was playing with the empathic brain of some supe:
Crowley: Chocula here feels every tickle.
Castiel:What good is that for?
Crowley: Apart from the obvious erotic value, you got me.
I guess. I wish the writers had taken it a different way. Cas tells Dean and Sam what is at stake and Dean says, “You know what? Cas is right. This is seriously some messed up crap. Let’s do whatever we have to in order to win this thing.”
I guess conflicted Cas, Dean, and Sam is better for TV.
Maybe if Dean’s family is threatened with death or worse in the season finale he will change his mind. Maybe he’s not very good at abstract, long term thinking; he seems much more ready to risk it all for a few people in front of him (like the two orphan boys) than work on the big problem. Despite the fact that 1. in a world overrun with demons your little orphans will die horribly eventually and 2. it actually only takes one of you to drive the kids out of town.
I felt bad when Castiel said he was the one who’d gotten Sam out of hell and everyone’s attitude was, “So you’re the screw-up.”
I don’t think the attitude was “So you’re the screw-up” as much as “we’ve asked hundreds of time who/what brought sam back, and you’ve lied to us this whole time”.
Its a feeling of betrayel - and the boys “holier than thou” attitude when it comes to working with demons - because ‘they’, of course, would never do such a thing.
Give it a week and a few man hugs - they’ll work it out.
I wonder what is going to prompt the collapse of Sam’s “soul wall” in the finale this year?
Yeah, it’s pretty hypocritical for them to condemn Cas for working with Crowley, when they just fucking worked with him themselves to take down Lucy last season.
Whose portrait is that in hell behind Crowley when he’s offering the loan of 50,000 souls?
Aretha Franklin will order it done. You’ll find out she really is the Queen of Soul(s).