It went out simply and with class. I can complain about things that weren’t there, but they did a great job.
Goodbye, Supernatural. I’m 42 and been watching since I was 27.
It went out simply and with class. I can complain about things that weren’t there, but they did a great job.
Goodbye, Supernatural. I’m 42 and been watching since I was 27.
Did not expect it to middle like that, but they pulled it off.
I don’t know if I would have ended it that way but it was a good ending. A good finale for the show. I liked Heaven 2.0. That’s a lot better version than Heaven 1.0 was which I always thought was dumb.
Overall I’m happy with these last two episodes ending the show.
I started watching since a few episodes into season one and haven’t missed an episode since.
It was a good 15 years.
Heh, wow, I don’t watch the show, but one of my social media circles has been going negatively nuts over it, comparing it to GoT.
Totally disagree. That was a very satisfying finale. It felt true to the show and true to the characters. I, too, did not expect it to go the direction it did - but that direction didn’t feel wrong, just unexpected.
I have sort of vaguely heard that, but I don’t see it. It was pretty good.
The biggest complaint that I see from the Major Fans is that Dean and Castiel didn’t fuck in the end.
Those fans need to cut their faces off. There was never an in show hint that Cas was sexually into Dean and tons of Dean being hetero.
They might as well be saying that breathing is the worst thing ever because neutron stars aren’t shoelaces.
To be fair, there are other arguments too, like that the main characters’ fates weren’t reflective or worthy of fifteen years’ worth of stories that changed and shaped them. But that’s just my impression; I haven’t had the interest sufficient to read through some of the essays going around.
I do believe many would criticize the “shallow” readings of those who liked or were satisfied with the ending, tho’.
There, I’d disagree - the main characters of the finale did show 15 years of growth from the main characters of the pilot. I think the structure of the finale was a good cap/epilogue to the series.
They did have to make some concessions for covid. There were some characters that probably should have/would have gotten a more complete/satisfying final scene if they could have easily traveled into Canada and been on set with a ton of people. But to me, the general storyline of the finale was still solid. Everything made sense based on what I’d seen for the past dozen or so years (I didn’t start watching from the beginning. I had to catch up a season or two in)
I got into Supernatural during my 9 months of unemployment this year, and have stuck my foot gingerly into the fandom. I liked the series finale, finding it sweet and hopeful. SPN Twitter has spent the time since it aired on Thursday screaming about it. Maybe I’m just too old to muster up all that energy for fictional characters.
I wasn’t crazy about the finale, but it could have been much worse. I feel OK about it.
I didn’t start watching until May 2014: I checked it out on a friend’s recommendation, and wound up binge-watching it pretty heavily. I was caught up before the 10th season started that October. So I’ve seen every episode, but I’ve only been along for the ride for the last six years.
Of course, you were correct! When I posted about a two-hour finale, it was based on a TV promo that I’d heard; the voiceover might have actually said “two-hour series finale event,” or something.
I stand by my earlier statement of being ready for the show to end, but it still felt weird to delete the Season Pass from my TiVo…
The first 5 seasons were the best. It was still great at times, but it never got back up to the earlier heights again.
The writing really seemed to fall off.
Especially in the last few seasons.
They were just ticking boxes on a formula it seemed.
The final season…meh.
It bothered me that the brothers were ALL about protecting people but then they pissed off God so God decided to nuke all parallel universes which means Sam and Dean caused untold billions and billions of deaths but they were never fussed about it at all.
First half of the season I liked pretty well, enjoyed all the past characters getting a walk on, esp Eileen. Second half seemed like they were struggling, but in a covid world I can’t really hold that against them. Penultimate episode was rather pat, everything fell into place at the last minute like a ST:TNG episode.
Last one did not go the way I was thinking, I was expecting the 2 kids would have no one else in the world and Sam would wind up raising them into the next generation of hunters, which is a bit dark, but they had the trauma, and if Jack left monsters in the world, that world would need hunters. I’m satisfied.
Well, we pretty much bailed on the show at the end of Season 13, and came back to it a couple of years later to finish it off, struggling to remember who was who at that point, but to be fair, we were doing that the last couple of seasons (11-13) anyway: Darkness, the mark, men of letters, a number of instant adult children (was Amara’s rebirth that?).
Coming back, I found the logic of the internal universe was pretty much disposable, Didn’t Castiel used to be able to click teleport? I think sometimes he still did. They’d ignore dead man blood for vampires. They’d struggle to fight demons one minute and then just chop them the next. They used to be formidable. Indeed, the final episode was a simple “pop em with bullets and chop them” case where they had to go into a close quarters melee with them. The most hilarious moment was from the 14th Season when Castiel shrugs and leaves Sam get dragged away by vampires to die in the alternate universe: “Ah well, never mind, let’s go this way”.
In the end everyone could die and come back. There kind of was no real peril. I did enjoy the kind of compilation nature of the old characters coming back in the final season. It was a struggle to remember who they were, and some like Gareth, they hadn’t made it clear he was a werewolf and was fine with it, and was left in the boot of the car, and I hadn’t remembered he was originally already one. They even brought back the serious characters from the original classic season: the crossroads demons, which was nice.
A nod back to the fact they used to actually attempt to save the host of the people the demons possessed would have been really good, it used to be the main purpose of the classic seasons: to exorcise people rather than stab them. It might even have been a bit self referential bit of criticism. But nope, if a demon has you, you’re dead now.
It was nice to have a couple of fun episodes near the end, Garth was always good, and the loss of power a good laugh. The wood elf episode was a standalone classic which reminded us that that was the sort of thing which made Supernatural different. Similar to Stargate SG-1’s universe’s television programme about them, I missed the fandom about Supernatural and standout episodes were the convention where they were constantly criticised for their Sam and Dean cosplay. However, apart from the Scooby episode, that aspect had disappeared from around S06E15: The French Mistake, where they are thrown through a window and appear in our universe as actors in the Supernatural TV series.
It was nice for Hellblazer/Constantine to get a reference one episode, given that Supernatural has eaten it’s lunch for fifteen seasons, and was probably the original inspiration for the series. That’s probably why any attempt to make a series from those comics are doomed, Supernatural did most of it already with the politics of heaven and hell.
I never really had an requirement about the finale(s), just don’t make them stupid was the main one. It would have been nice to have not had a bunch of questions about the restored universe: was cas alive? were the alternate universe ones alive? (I assume not, no Bobbie) Were their old friends alive? Donna and Jody didn’t make Deans funeral. Garth? It was seeming that monsters weren’t, but heaven and hell was still there, but the monsters reappeared to kill Dean. Did Sam retire? It appeared so.
The one big ask I would have wanted from it, with Heaven, Hell, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, God, Angels and all the things in between, why no appearance from the other big player: Jesus Christ. Not even a reference. Forgotten in effectively a christo-judean universe. Could have portrayed him as a hippy. Is 2000 years too soon? I was assuming nothing brave about the other prophets such as Abraham, Moses, and certainly no supernatural prophet called “Mo”, that’s for sure. That was probably written on a white board in capital letters in the writing room.
All in all satisfied, but kind of glad it’s over too.
Absolutely. Extremely conspicuous absence.
It would also have been nice for them to meet Buddha on the road and kill him.
I’m still working my way through all the episodes on Netflix and there is a season 12 episode that includes Stigmata, which is a direct reference to Jesus Christ. But that was all and the name never mentioned. I have to think that they wanted to avoid the Christian extremists that would inevitably come for them.
They avoided getting into “God” for many years, too. He was out there, not part of the story, that was the gist. Same reasons, but they gave in and made him part of the story.
Jesus was all part of the Pantheon, as important as any of them. Arguably the lack of him meant he didn’t exist (was he ever mentioned?), or it wasn’t a christian universe, but heaven and hell meant it wasn’t a judean one either. The extremists would have been wound up about by any of this anyway, none of the universe had any particular disrepect for any of the important players. Yet, the Jesus shaped hole in the middle of it was very noticeable. Did he exist? Did he die and not return? Did he return and then retire? Wouldn’t he be nagging Dad about killing everyone?