Survivor 10/23

Cafe Society
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I just have to say it’s still “all in the editing.”
Apparently, Trish was something of a conniving bitch, but I sure never saw her that way till last night, and I’m actually ( ::shudder:: ) warming to Jon. He was the one working to get the shelter rebuilt so they were up off the ground, so they wouldn’t get eaten alive by the bugs. Shawn was pulling an Osten (whining, “Do we have to do it nnnnnow?”), and Jon was the one busting his ass to get it done. He’s been portrayed as an ass, and it was stupid of him to try to get rid of Rupert, but I don’t think he’s quite as jerky as he’s been made out to be.
Having said that, I’d hate to see Jon win.

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I thought that was great, too. I loved the shot of Ryan gently picking up the bird and carrying him away.
I liked how disgusted Andrew was with Osten for acting like he was King Shit and sharpening the machete, like he would actually kill the damn thing. Jeez, it was just a funny-looking bird, checking out your camp!
I can’t wait for Osten to be voted out, and for someone to ask him that very question. If you can’t swim and hate sleeping outside, and hate wildlife, WTF are you doing there???

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True, determination was a key to winning the weight holding contest. But I think Osten approached it too much like a weight lifter. I noticed that Andrew locked his knees and stood up straight while Osten kept his knees and back slightly bent. Keeping them slightly bent is a better technique at the gym because in the long run it’ll save your joints and also give you a better workout. But this ain’t the gym, and in a one-shot deal, go for the technique that expends less energy.

43

I was seriously hoping that right after Morgan won the immunity challenge, they would just call over to Drake and said “Hey, Jon - didja throw this one, too?” That’d make the sparks fly. Unfortunately, no dice.

44

Why is nobody mentioning the horrible strategy which lost the immunity challenge.

Andrew was about to crack and they started moving weight over to Ryan instead of finishing him off. Those 40 pounds didn’t hurt Ryan but would have busted Andrew. They did the same stupid thing with Osten. Had they just put weigh on one person till he broke, they would have won easily due to Osten’s quick fold.

Again Jon and Sandra are massive liabilities on the challenges. Morgan voted out their strongest person (or close to it) first, and were stupidily going to repeat their mistake until Sandra stabbed Trish & Jon in the back. So while Drake booted their weak members, Morgan kept theirs. That is one of the major reasons Drake has been on such a run, that and Rupert’s overly helpful visit.

Jonny Fairplay- not quite the mastermind you though you were. I cant wait to see your name on that slip of paper.

Sadly, I am starting to be convinced a Drake may take this if things don’t change at Morgan.

Next week better not be the merge or player switch as those things are getting lame. Leave them in the tribes until the final four-- that would be neat.

45

How did that smoothie taste?

46

Um… err… does anyone know were I can get blood clams and seawater in a landlocked state?

Yup, just ask Tina Wesson.

47

Why have I seen many references to “A BIG LIE HAS BEEN TOLD?”
Did I miss something? Was their a mention of this on the first show that there was a lie being told?

Why are people under the impression the lie is from Jeff?

I am interested to hear a response.

Isabelle.

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It WAS dumb of them. Their strategy was so crazy that I kept thinking it was just me who was confused. Turns out they were the dumb heads.

49

Isabelle, Peachy Probst said in an interview given before this season’s premiere that someone on this season tells the biggest lie ever on Survivor. Lots of heat have followed with online speculation, but not an awful lot of light. I’ve only heard a little more about it, and that’s in my spoiler box a few posts above…

50

I was very disappointed with Trish’s true nature. I had an immediate warmth for her in the first episode and held it until last night. Bummer.

I agree with the favorable reactions to Andrew, Ryan O. and Christa. Tough folks, and I wouldn’t mind seeing Osten keelhauled. Totally useless.

I still think Jon is easy to hate, and am looking forward to his ouster. In order, here’s how I want them to go:

  1. Osten
  2. Jon
  3. Darrah
  4. Shawn
  5. Ryan O.
  6. Tijuana
  7. Sandra
  8. Christa
  9. Andrew
  10. Rupert

In other words, if Rupert can’t win for whatever reason, I want it to be Andrew. An honorable man with some real guts.

51

In a word, No. Andrew last night reminded me of Mike Simpkin from survivor 3(?) Am I the only one?

In a very similar challenge the tribe was asked to pick the “strongest member who would never let them down” and the tribe close Mike over someone who was supposedly stronger because of Mike’s mental strength.

When i first saw the poles i thought it would be the same one-on-one type challenge. Osten is supposed to be the “strong” member of their tribe but it’s pretty clear that he’s their weakest.

52

Good episode. Trish’s attempted coup has got to be the most inept scheming ever seen on the show. Why on earth would you have that conversation with Jon right in front of Sandra? Admittedly, you need to pick up another vote to pull it off, but pitching it like that leaves you no option but the walk of shame if the votes aren’t there. Dumb move, Trish and Jon.

I too have to admit that my estimation of Savage went way up last night. The guy showed some serious grit in that endurance challenge. He wasn’t dealt much of a hand with his tribemates in Morgan, but he deserves a lot of credit for getting these guys back in the game.

Next week promises to be interesting. I hear the immunity challenge has the contestants on waterskis, jumping over a shark.

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I do think Rupert needs to tone it down a little. Everything is “my and mine” with him. My tribe. My spear. My fish. My snake. It was inevitable that some on the team would tire of that.

If Rupert was more of an asshole, we’d all be tired of it too.

Jon is horrible. I feel vomit rise in my throat everytime I look at him. Morgan was being so hospitable by offering him a shower with their precious shampoo, and he returned it by belittling them. What a shit head!

I think Osten has to be fooling us all. No way someone can be that stupid! If he isn’t fooling us, I hope he’s deeply embarrassed by his performance on the show.

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The hamsters were slacking last night, and now most everything has been said!

Re: The Big Lie
They lied to the contestants at the beginning, telling them that they were going on a photo shoot and then saying “The game starts now. Lose your stuff and get in the water.” I don’t read the Survivor sites, and I haven’t heard anything more about a Big Lie since the first episode other than what people are posting here. If they’re still hyping the Big Lie, I’m not hearing it.

Balboa
I thought Shawn was a jerk for his backhanded comment about Rupert’s feeling bad about a “little snake he pulled out of the water”. Look. It’s just a snake. Okay. But to Rupert it was a little friend. Just because you don’t get emotional about little injured animals doesn’t mean that other people don’t. Caring for things weaker than you are is a sign of humanity. You have just caught a glimpse of Rupert’s humanity. I’ll thank you not to scoff.

Osten and Pete
I said in another thread that I have been bitten by a goose, and that it hurt. (And the bite was uncomfortably close to “the boys”.) So I can understand why Osten didn’t like Pelican Pete. On the other hand, I still like animals. I would have tried to make friends with Pete. If I was unsuccessful, then I’d adopt a “live and let live” attitude and not try to get cuddly with the bird. I wouldn’t have threatened to chop its head off! What a dick. Oh, yeah; that sure was a butch display you put on with that machete! Goon.

Christa
Her stuffy-nosed voice is trying, but she’s a cutie. [Peter Lorre]I should like to befriend her! Heh heh. Heh heh.[/Peter Lorre] Outstanding performance in the challenge.

Immunity Challenge
What were Drake thinking? Break them one by one! Andrew did an outstanding job. Not a very good leader, but his performance under the weights gave a good glimpse at his character.

Trish
She was right that Rupert will be a threat after the merge. But it was stupid of her to try to pull off a coup before it. Indeed, she doesn’t know how to play the game.

Rupert
Why do we like him? Well, he looks like Hagrid. Hagrid is a lovable giant, and so is Rupert. I liked that he got intot he spirit of the game by swiping Morgan’s street shoes. Arrr! He has a sense of humour. He is a nice person. He works hard, and he shares his good fortune. He’s kind to animals and to people. He’s a good sport. He understands that practicality (wearing a skirt) is more important than looking good. And he’s not a physically attractive person. He’s fat and hairy. That makes him a good role model for people who are not as young and attractive as the other players.

But he’s not as guileless as he seems. He’s a schemer. He does talk too much, but as far as his own plans are concerned he generally keeps his own council. Someone said Rupert had fallen a little in his/her eyes because he was ready to vote Shawn off until he found out about the plot against him and then got Shawn into an alliance. Perfectly acceptable, I say. That’s how the game is played. He can be a “jolly good fellow” and still stab his best friend in the back when he has to; but he’ll feel bad about it. I think he’s playing a good game.

"The Past will come back to haunt you."
Interesting. It looked like the set they were on was one of those sample-of-all-of-the-challenges-you’ve-had-so-far things. It would be nice if Probst & Co. came up with something else “out of the past”, but I fear that the hype is just for the challenge.

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My Beach!
My Sand!
My surf!
GO HOME!

(Or something like that…)

56

I totally agree with this statement! Otherwise, I don’t see how either of them could have gotten on the show. What’s with that Osten, the Man of Muscle, dropping his load (Did I Say THAT???) at such a measly weight??? I tell ya, he’s out to cripple his team and I think he is being paid to do it!!!

57

Best part of the show was Andrew’s rant about Jon, after he shot off his mouth about throwing the challenge. “little pissant”…hee hee.

58

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59

Actually Johnny, I think Drake had a very sound strategy, they just couldn’t account for Andrew’s grit. Remember, at that point, you had to get rid of both Andrew and Ryan. If they see Andrew struggling, they have two choices, add more weight to break him immediately, or count on the current weight being enough to eventually do him in while they are loading up Ryan. The second choice is better because it will get rid of Ryan quicker which was the ultimate goal

In fact, I think the best strategy would have been to equally distribute the weights.

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"The Past Coming Back to Haunt You"

For some reason my first thought about this was that it would somehow involve the people they have already voted off coming back to play a role. Like maybe a challenge with a quiz about how well you got to know the people before voting them off or something else. I think it’d be kind of cool if they brought back the last 5 people voted off and suddenly had 3 tribes going for a while or something dramatic like that.

Anyone else think the “past” referred to had something to do with the cast-offs? Maybe it was just me …

Oh… and I thought the “Biggest Lie Ever” was supposed to be something that happened midway through the season or something… I could have made that up though, I suppose.