Candace’s tears are like nitrous oxide to me (that’s laughing gas, isn’t it?). I haven’t laughed so hard during an Exile Island moment for a long time.
Although the howler of the night went to Parvati, when she got this grave look of disgust on her fact when Candace was sent back to Exile, then meekly went back to scrubbing her back in the tub. I’m not one to exaggerate, but that was the funniest damn thing in the history of the universe. 
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Although… (yes, 3rd post in a row…my neurons are firing randomly tonight)
The look on Adam’s face when Jonathan actually told them that Yul had it and showed it to him made me wonder. What if there really is more than one HII? What if Adam has one, too?
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I seriously doubt this to be true. If Adam had an immunity idol, it should have been played last week to save Nate. Although I suppose Adam could have been too stupid to play it.
Regarding Yul taking Jonathan to final two…
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Realistically, he couldn’t pull that off anyway. The jurors of Survivor are typically a LOT more forgiving of the snake they know. To get to the final two with Jonathan, Yul would have to betray his entire alliance. It could be done easily at first maybe before tonight. Convince A, C and P to vote off Ozzy maybe with Yul and Jonathan being the surprise votes. Flip Parvati and make it a three person alliance of Yul, Jonathan and Parvati. Get Candice and Adam to vote with Parvati and take out Sundra. At this point, he can plausibly get rid of Becky next without her knowing that he’s the mastermind. Convince Parvati that she’s the odd man out with Candice and Adam, tell her you will take her to final two. Bam, bam..they are gone, provided they don’t win immunity. (of course, then you just reverse the pecking order) Then, just hope that Parvati loses in the three person challenge (provided the two person final is still in effect). That is the only way he could sit in the final two with Jonathan and not be outed for destroying his own alliance, as far as I can see.
However, voting off Candice tonight means that his alliance sees that Adam and Parvati go next and then they look to him to vote off Jonathan. Any resistance puts doubt in their mind…they were supposed to be the final four! Now he’s “stuck” voting off Adam and Parvati, then Jonathan. Ozzy and Sundra just seem way too complacent with their place in all of this. I think the fact that Yul has the immunity idol is really playing havoc with any thoughts of outside strategy on their parts. Yul can win this entire game easily if he just stays the course and keeps Becky, Ozzy and Sundra happy.
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I think your first plan just might be overthinking things. Yul does the right thing by at least appearing to entertain the notion of keeping the Raro three around. But seriously, they have to go immediately. One leaves as little to chance as possible. Breaking up the obviously tight Adam - Candice bond is imperative. Pagong all three if possible, as soon as possible.
You must not offer sinking and desperate enemies any sort of way to turn the game back around on you. Anything can happen… new rules pop up all the time. Or someone wins an immunity challenge at an inopportune time.
After that, it’s an easy sell to get rid of Ozzy. Sundra and Becky see him as an enormous physical threat. If Ozzy gets immunity, then Jonathan goes. Reuse the same argument: he is a physical threat.
They’re down to 4: Yul, Becky, Sundra, and either Ozzy or Jonathan. At this point, the immunity idol gets Yul to final three no matter what. If he wins the immunity challenge, he can choose to use it or not… he will most likely only save Becky with it. This is due to his sense of honor, because he originally talked to Becky. In return, I do not believe Becky will entertain notions of a new alliance with anyone.
Finally, it is imperative that Yul purposely throw all reward and immunity challenges until the final four. There is absolutely no advantage to winning them, even if it comes with the keys to a car.
I think this gives Yul his best chance to get to the final three, after which, anything can happen, even with his currently enormous advantage.
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No thread started yet? OK…
What are the chances that a Chick Alliance will get under discussion tonight? Will Becky and Sundra be tempted by Parvati and Candice to start offing the guys?
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That’s what I was thinking. I like Yul, but he’s getting a little cocky. He’s so sure he’s going to the F2 - and has let others know it. I think Becky and Sundra might decide to get rid of the guys and give themselves a chance at the million.
Does Becky have blood on her shirt from the wrestling challenge, or is it paint?
Oh, and what about the required Nature Shot - The Vomiting Fish!
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Oh, and what about the required Nature Shot - The Vomiting Fish!
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Oh, yeah…I was definitely wondering why they thought we’d want to watch an eel throw up a squid…bleah!
Oh, you guys! I believe that last night’s episode of Survivor catapulted this season right up to #2 on my all-time awesomest list – maybe even a tie for #1! (I’m not sure yet, because I love Ian so much, but we’re getting close.) Here are just a few reasons why:
Strategy. Although it isn’t really hard to beat stupid people in a game like this, it’s fun to watch them scramble for a strategy when we have maybe the best strategic thinker ever in the game. Yul is about six kinds of awesome, and even though his poker face needs some work, I love how he’s all honest and logical about it. He’s like the anti-Heidik. Imagine facing him in the final Tribal Council and trying to come up with a reason not to vote for him. Because right now, I can’t. Yeah, these particular people are going to be pissed if Yul is one of the F2, but he had a strategy, he stuck to it, and he was honest about it the whole time. He even had the decency not to say, “Yeah, I’m smarter than you, so what? Suck it! Bwahahahaha!” Which I would be tempted to do with these bozos. And none of this is going to matter, because for whatever reason, Survivor Juries all get the Space Madness anyway, and come up with final questions like “My question is YOU SUCK!”
Beautiful Bean Footage. That barfing fish was disgusting, and still beautifully filmed. And I love how that picture was a dual-purpose metaphor, for how Parvati said she was feeling, and how Parvati was making me feel. Yeah, Parvati, I know how someone can be just so icky and vile and disgusting that you want to throw up all over them.
Schadenfreude. I am a very bad person, and I loved it when Candice got sent out to Exile Island again – especially once Yul showed everyone the Idol. And double-especially after Parvati was all, “Yeah, looks authentic,” like – when would he have had the time to fake it? Where would he have gotten the materials, you dolt? God. And when the Aitus and Jonathan wouldn’t share their food, and Candice got all pouty and “waaaah, unfair!” about it? Thing of beauty. The only thing that would have made me love Jonathan more at that moment would have been if he had called Candice “Miss Pouty-Pants” and told her to go to her room to do her sulking.
Yeah, I kind of really hate Adam and Parvati. “This game is no fun because we’re gonna lose! Waaaaaah!” Oh, shut up and go take a nap until it’s time for you to go home. Don’t like being a puppet? Then earn your freaking keep. Because they have to know, even on a rudimentary level, that Jonathan would have been toast if they had just pretended to help out around camp, instead of sitting all alone at the Mean Girls’ table at lunch, all glare-y and frowny-faced. (Plus: Psst! Candice and Parvati! Frowning causes wrinkles!)
Also, because nobody has really mentioned it yet: I’m not quite sure how, but I think Ozzy is working on something major. We didn’t see much of him this episode, and even last week, when Yul made the big reveal, he was pretty quiet about everything. And yet he has that delicious evil streak that we saw when he said that there was no “ethical” obligation to feed the Children. Watch out for that one. If he is working behind the scenes, doing damage control for Yul while Yul takes all the heat, he could end up sneaking away with that million.
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Best line of the night (paraphrased)-- “The kiss was nice, but if it was really love, he’d have given you the immunity necklace.” 
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Yeah, but the truth is there’s another side to that: And if Candice loved Adam, she wouldn’t take it. He’d be booted out sure as anything.
What a great show. I loved the Candice meltdown. And Yul almost lost his cool for the first time when Jonathan started blabbing. I don’t know if they’ll get rid of him next time (he does catch a lot of fish), but I wouldn’t blame them if they did-- he’s just not fun to have a round camp. And I’ll give dumb-ass Adam some credit-- I never thought he’d win that brain teaser IC.
Yul really showed his chops when he gave Becky money to buy the power card. It turned out to be not so great, but the last person who bought the power card ended up winning the $1M. That showed her that he’s got her back. And I think he’d be fine taking her to the F2. Who would vote for Becky-- she’s been mostly coasting the whole time.
I agree with Rockle, though, that Ozzy might have something up his sleeve. Still, those 4 are very tight, and maybe they should just hold together for F4 and then figure out what to do then. You can overthink this game, and lose by being too clever by half.
Great episode, and this is turning out to be my favorite season. Tune in next week to see Parvati move in on Adam now that Candice is out of the picture!
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And I’ll give dumb-ass Adam some credit-- I never thought he’d win that brain teaser IC.
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Which, of course, he did just after I had finished a nice long discussion about how Adam doesn’t have the brains Og gave a meerkat.
It’s a strong possibility. Just because we haven’t seen Ozzy’s mad manipulation skillz doesn’t mean he has none.
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Who would vote for Becky-- she’s been mostly coasting the whole time.
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Don’t forget the Rob/Amber lovefest that was Survivor All-Stars. She coasted the entire time under Boston Rob’s wing — and won.
Were the Raroarians really going to treat Yul’s crew any differently if they had kept the upper hand? I think not.
Nate getting bent all out of shape because of Johnathan voting him off, when Nate has been salivating at the idea of voting Johnathan off, even before he joined their tribe.
The look on Nathan and Parvati’s face when Yul said he had the idol: “Durr?”
I’m wondering if they’re not going to point out to the survivors that the final vote might be at final 3 rather than 2. They could go to final four, vote somebody off, and then Jeff will be all, “Okay, final Tribal council tonight. See ya there.” :eek: :eek: :eek:
re: Becky realizing she might not make final two: It probably didn’t help when Johnathan bet against her at the reward challenge.
Has anybody mentioned that if there are two HII’s, Adam might have one? That would explain why he wasn’t willing to consider that Yul had one. It would also explain Probst’s line about “if he really loved you, he would have given you the idol”, as in, the hidden one…
Johnathan was fantastic at the reward challenge. Completely brutal. I loved it.
After the immunity challenge, I loved how Yul had to backpedal and downplay the situation when Johnathan came across him talking to the Raroarians: “We’re just, talking about… they’re… doing what they should be doing…”
I’m guessing Candice cleans up real good for the jury… looking forward to next week’s TC.
Why did everyone, including his alliance members, get all bent out of shape about Johnathan eating the food at auction? He just played it right: when Survivor has an auction for food or possibly food, you bid fast and you bid high. You don’t sit there all timid and shy or you end up going home with nothing but an empty belly.
Supposedly they were mad at him for eating all that food and then being cocky about it. But I didn’t see cocky. I saw a guy making innocent small talk about what they had just participated in, and belching. These Survivor folks are always on such short fuses that if anything good happens to you, the only way to avoid scathing criticism is to apologize profusely and act like you did something wrong. Johnathan didn’t do that, so they jumped on him for being selfish and “showing his true colors.”
I was thinking, “no, he’s not being a jerk. You were stupid for not bidding $500 on that unseen item and getting your own damn pepperoni pizza. Now you’re hungry and mad and trying to blame it on him.”
30 posts and no-one reflecting on Parvati lowering her bikini-clad torso into a hot tub? Unfortunately, my mental Rolodex does not have a reliable pause button… sigh…
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30 posts and no-one reflecting on Parvati lowering her bikini-clad torso into a hot tub? Unfortunately, my mental Rolodex does not have a reliable pause button… sigh…
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I wish mine had a fast-forward…
Yul is the best player since Rob C., possibly ever. He’s a lock for final four, and then just needs to win an immunity or two. (The Idol is good to GET you to the final four, not to use AT the final four, I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s been in the past.) The only immunity challenge Yul might want to win is at final five, so he can give the necklace to Becky, and keep it out of Johnathan’s hands (or Ozzy’s if he has to dump him early.)
The only tough part should be final four, if it’s the 4 Aitu’s. Yul will have to bust ass to make sure Ozzy doesn’t win immunity, because that’s likely the only chance the others have to oust Yul. Yul is jury gold at this point.
Had to go back and slow-mo the vomiting eel. That was disgustingly awesome.
Hilarious to see Candace going off on Jonathan. How dare she talk about betrayal when SHE STARTED THE MUTINY! He followed HER because she told him they were tight. And then dropped him like a bad habit once she had her himbo to latch to. I wish Jonathan had thrown that back at her. I really do.
Normally I don’t like the old “we’re in charge, no food for you” gambit, but here it was completely justified. Won’t be sad to see Adam go. Or Parvati, and her bumbling attempts at flirting and strategizing, but at least she’s easy on the eyes.
BTW, how cool is it that the big alliance in charge at this point has at least one member of each of the original “racial” tribes? So much for racially motivated voting. Go Team Melting Pot!
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Why did everyone, including his alliance members, get all bent out of shape about Johnathan eating the food at auction? He just played it right: when Survivor has an auction for food or possibly food, you bid fast and you bid high. You don’t sit there all timid and shy or you end up going home with nothing but an empty belly.
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Never underestimate the ability of Survivor players to not know a single goddamn thing about how the game is played.
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Supposedly they were mad at him for eating all that food and then being cocky about it.
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Heh, or maybe they were mad Jonathan spilled more food than they got, haha.
I have to admit Jonathan has done the very best ever at the auction. He won three damn things and the rest just sat there like frogs on a log. Haven’t they ever seen the damn show before? Bid fast, big high, and get at least one thing. Jonathan got THREE things, which is amazing. Yul is the smartest dude we have seen for a while, and Jonathan is right up there.
The Immature Three were mind boggling. I mean, when they were accussed of sitting around and doing no work, they didn’t even rebut that! :eek:
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Never underestimate the ability of Survivor players to not know a single goddamn thing about how the game is played.
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[Galaxy Quest] Did you guys ever watch the show?[/Galaxy Quest]
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Has anybody mentioned that if there are two HII’s, Adam might have one? That would explain why he wasn’t willing to consider that Yul had one. It would also explain Probst’s line about “if he really loved you, he would have given you the idol”, as in, the hidden one…
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I thought he said, “If it was really love, he would have given you the immunity necklace.” Has anybody listened to it again to verify what exactly he said?
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(The Idol is good to GET you to the final four, not to use AT the final four, I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s been in the past.)
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That is how it was last season, but this time the instructions were clear that it can be used up to and including the Final 4 TC.