Survivor 11/7

Regarding the IC performance

Here’s what I couldn’t figure out. Why not go underwater and hold your breath for 30 seconds, then blow out the water, then start the tube breathing. Did I miss a rule that said you had to immediately start tube breathing? I would have to think my plan of action would have resulted in more than 9 seconds.

Kinda glad Erin is out now. This way I can spend each week looking forward to seeing how she looks cleaned up and dressed in regular clothes. Of course, this does ruin my hopes of a final 2 of Penny and Erin finding new and inventive ways to pass the last couple of days alone.

Regarding the IC performance

Here’s what I couldn’t figure out. Why not go underwater and hold your breath for 30 seconds, then blow out the water, then start the tube breathing. Did I miss a rule that said you had to immediately start tube breathing? I would have to think my plan of action would have resulted in more than 9 seconds.

Kinda glad Erin is out now. This way I can spend each week looking forward to seeing how she looks cleaned up and dressed in regular clothes. Of course, this does ruin my hopes of a final 2 of Penny and Erin finding new and inventive ways to pass the last couple of days alone.

I kinda doubt anyone thought they would be down there for only 30 seconds. The IC performance really was pretty weak, though. I mean, Ken popped up in what, nine seconds? How 'bout Brian’s Cool Hand Luke performance though, huh? As long as he can prevent Helen and/or Jan from defecting, that guy’s got winner written all over him.

The trick, incidentally, is to keep your tongue on the roof of your mouth. That way, any water that you suck in gets deflected by your tongue instead of being inhaled straight into your lungs. Just an old snorkeling/scuba diving tip.

This is the first episode I’ve watched of this one, and I thought it was kind of funny that the guys were commenting on how Penny was playing on her looks, trying to get into all the guy’s good graces by being so pretty, and then they’d cut to Erin, standing their in her bikini bottom (did she have anything else on? I didn’t notice, although I guess I would have if she was topless); anyway, Erin’s looks blew Penny clear out of the water. Shows what good looks do for you on this show. Have these people watched the previous versions of Survivor?

I know! When Penny was telling him, “nobody blames you”, I was thinking, they damn well better not! He was the only one on the team who even made a go of it! (Nine seconds. Pfft!)

And Mullinator, I think that Jeff did specifically say they had to blow out the water and start breathing immediately. It was a test of their ability to remain calm in a stressful situation, not a breath holding competition.

We certainly did see more of Jake this time than we have before. I really like him. I hope he goes far, but it’s not looking good now.

Is anyone else amazed that they just leave their food sitting in baskets, knowing that a mischievous monkey will visit as soon as they leave? I know monkeys can get into just about anything if they want to, but couldn’t you at least try to slow him down? Maybe tie the lid on the basket with some vines? Maybe put a big-ass rock on top? They look like idiots when they just walk off without protecting their food, then whine like babies when they find it’s gone.

Even better: Bring the food with them when they all have to leave camp!

They can’t tie up a boat properly, you think that they can secure food before they leave?

And the monkey is definitely in for a serious ass-eye punching. Or at least a little grinding treatment from Ted.

Jake is playing the game. He was subtly reminding them that, even though he’s older, he’s better physically than they are and therefore the tribe is stronger with him than without. That approach also tells them that he doesn’t bear any ill will toward them for flaking, even though he maybe does.

Jake’s histrionics over killing the chicken were also playing the game, by trying to show he’s a sensitive new-age guy instead of some callous brute (like Ken, for instance, hint hint, Erin and Penny). I like Jake to be the last Soup Guy.

Notice the part where Jake asked if they should reveal the victim before the TC? That had already been decided, of course. Where were the shots of the discussion?

It’s a sweeps month, too. Don’t forget Amber staying in longer than she should have by giving Old Tom his peeks.

Now, to wait for the SurvivorSucks.com unauthorized episode summary …

I agree that this episode was pretty much a snooze. I hate to admit it but I kinda like Crazy Jan. She’s got a soft spot for animals. Besides after sleeping in a cave for 20+ days and losing her dinner to some baboon, you can’t blame her for being a bit emotional.

I hope the tribes merge soon because otherwise the women are done. They are already outnumbered in each tribe and I think the men are allied with each other, whether it is spoken or unspoken. If they merge it’s possible that the women and Ted can create a voting bloc to counter the alpha males - Brian, Clay, Ken and Jake.

I was hoping they’d lose their canoe again just because I wanted to see Jeff wag his finger at them.

P.S. Will Brian please quit scratching his hairy belly???

I am a Nerd/know-it-all type, so the survival and strategy parts of the show are more interesting to me than the relationships. When I saw the immunity challenge this time, I remembered doing this in my pool.

Breathing through a vertical tube as in the IC is more difficult the further under the water your lungs are. It is surprising how much pressure a few inches of (dense) water can exert on one’s lungs. In snorkeling, your body is parallel with the surface of the water and your lungs are not very far down, so breathing is much easier than the in the IC.

I can accept that Helen was chosen randomly to sit out of this underwater challenge, but once she saw what it was, why not coach your teamates?

It was not said if your whole body had to be under water, or if you had to maintain a head-higher-than-feet orientation. If this was not required, a better way to breath would have been to turn side-ways. Actually, I was thinking you could turn completely upside down and hook the feet over the bamboo frame, puting your head in the water and lungs mostly out. This strategy (and the side-ways turn to some extent) have the drawback that you would have to hold your nose to keep water from going up it, but I think that had I been there, and had it been within the rules, that’s what I would have tried.

As far as SJ having to vote out a member, I thought of two things:

  1. If you really are that broke up about it and love your team that much, why not agree to chose randomly who is to go?

  2. Perhaps better is to ask CG to pick a person. Imagine if SJ picks someone to go (it turned out to be Erin) who CG does not perceive as the greatest threat. Well, if there is a merge, probably the person that does appear the biggest threat is next to go. By asking CG to select CG’s biggest threat, the chances of the surviving 3 SJ’s are increased, perhaps passing that of Jan or some other CG. SJ could stop any type of demurral by CG (no, we don’t want to pick for you) by making a “threat” of telling CG that “if you don’t pick , we have decided to vote off X”, X being the person that SJ views as being least threatening. Ironically, I think the X in this scenario might have been Erin! I would say Penny on the grounds of individual immunity challenges, but would rank P as more dangerous than E on her (somewhat undeserved as far as theviewers are concerned?) reputation as manipulative and liable to switch coalitions quickly.

I thought they denied peeing in the cave. Maybe the monkeys are peeing there.

They did deny it. Right before they showed Ted peeing right up against the wall about 2 feet inside the cave. The denial was part of the political game.

When Brian came up after CG won, you could clearly see they were all given noseplugs. So that part of the drawback is a non-issue. I doubt though that they would be allowed to do it that way, Burnett and co seem pretty strict when it comes to rules, even if they don’t show it. Well, except when Colby is competing that is, but that was quite a while ago now.

I finally saw it last night. It was a snoozer. I did like the part where the women were rattling on about recipes then they cut to Clay and Brian, I think, and their eyes were just glazed over. I think they did that twice. Man, if I was starving I sure wouldn’t be babbling on about desserts.

Peeing in your cave? Man, I don’t even like hearing or smelling myself when I do that. Especially with a guy with a camera tapeing everything you do?? Whatever.

So, which upcoming issue of Playboy is Erin gonna be in? Should we start a pool?

Mmm…Erin…Playboy…pool. Three words that should always go together.

Well they liked her, and it was tough. Also the TC was bad for their overall chances. Mostly though it was make believe for the jury and remaing tribe members. They had their mind made up on the beach.

Erin is on the jury-- right? I thought that was a large part of the “show”. It was also for all of the other people who will be there soon.

Now that team geezer has a numerical advantage, the return of the highly physical challenges seems assured.

Oh, and I hope that they don’t merge at all.

my prediction for next week-- “Jan-- the tribe has spoken”

Preview-based spoiler on that point:

[spoiler]They merge, and apparently early in the show. Previews from this weekend show everyone wearing yellow buffs, apparently at the reward challenge. Ken’s looks very, very clean, so my guess is that Probst annoucnes the merge and hands out the yellow buffs when they arrive for RC.

Also, the IC appears to be an obstacle course staged in heats of two persons each. Brian and Ted are shown racing against each other, which they wouldn’t be doing if it was still tribe vs. tribe.[/spoiler]

As for why Erin was voted out, I had an interview with Shii Ann (really just a series of questions vetted by CBS) and she mentioned that Erin simply didn’t bring anything to the tribe. Meanwhile, Penny did more work around camp. So that may be the simple answer as to why Erin was voted out – she was just the least necessary person. <shrug>

(Oh, and you can see the entire interview at RealityNewsOnline tomorrow (Wednesday). :smiley: