Nothing much to add here, folks.
Turn off the TVs.
Move along.
Have we ever seen such a ludicrous jury verdict? Okay, maybe when O.J. Simpson was found not guilty of murder, but other than that?
Why did Rob vote for Jenna and not Matt? Same for Christy?
Did they all think Matt tricked them by by seeming so out of it mentally and they were pissed that he fooled them, while Jenna was true to as to her personality - even if that was to be a whiny little princess bitch? It just doesn’t make senses whatsoever.
After each one of these Survivor finals I always say it is the last time I waste my precious hours with this crap, but this time I mean it. Unless they’re gonna be somewhere interesting, like, say, the Pearl Islands and the girls are hot.
Picture of boobies on the beach at the Pearl Islands:
Matt didn’t lose anything by going with Jenna. He probably had a better chance of winning if we went to TC with her instead of Rob. Jeff Probst even asked the jury if they’re vote would’ve changed if Rob had been in the final two. I’m pretty sure I saw several of them (Christy, Deena, and Dave) nodding. I think they all realized that Rob was really playing the game and would’ve rewarded him for it.
YES!! That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw her. IIRC she’s from LA, so probably not surprising.
I would not think that voting for Jenna over Matt is a sign that the jury would have voted for Rob over Matt. Sure, a couple people probably would have done so–especially Dave and Deena–but most of the truly vapid members of that jury would not have forgiven Rob’s betrayals of them and their friends. No way would the Boobsie Twins have voted for Rob, Alex said last night he would not, and Butch was tighter with Matt than Rob. That’s four votes right there, and I don’t know how forgiving Christy would have been either.
Jenna was that jury’s buddy, the last one of their friends who hadn’t been killed by Rob. There was no way most of them were voting for anybody else. Without any members of the Popular Clique in the F2, it would have been a very different conclusion.
So now Jenna can afford to replace that Zeta jacket. Thank heavens!
Let’s face it: we got suckered. They edited the footage to make Jenna look like a bigger villain than she was, and maybe to make Matt look nicer than he actually was. There’s a lot we didn’t see.
Spoke-, you’re absolutely right, but that was a big mistake on the producers’ part.
Suckering the audience a couple of times in the middle of the series makes sense–it spawns controversy and makes people tune in the next week to find out what really happened.
Suckering the audience in the finale, though, just makes the audience feel cheated and confused at the big finish. It’s poor showmanship.
I really don’t understand this antipathy towards Jenna. Sure, she had been annoying and self-centered, but Final Four Jenna absolutely deserved to win. In fact, I believe it began earlier. I think her being sick prior to voting Heidi’s being voted out was just an act. The men just had to choose between Heidi and Jenna, and by pretending to be weak, Jenna was demonstrating that she was not a threat to win immunity. So the men voted Heidi out since she was a bigger threat. Then she comes back and wins two in a row - the two most critical immunities.
She also read the jury very well. I thought she had made a mistake and pulled a Colby by selecting Matt over Rob. Who could be more hated than backstabbing Rob? But when Jeff asked the jurors their vote would have changed if Rob had been in the Final Two, several of them actually said yes. Clueless Matt was the better choice.
And now a plug from a fan. If you have nothing to watch this summer, check out The Amazing Race. Teams of two race around the world against each other. Last team at each pit stop get eliminated. Strategy, alliences, cooperation, and backstabbing galore. No immunities, no juries, no getting voted out. Plus, they’ve already had the most annoying and least deserving winner in the history of reality shows. (Jenna was a sensitive and caring individual compared to her.) The show has nowhere to go but up.
Ah, Jenna won, who would have guessed?
Well, I thought I would look at Survivor stuff at ebay.com
Jenna’s Mask: at $520 Item 3326337165
6 days to go…
I thought I could buy CS’s green shirt, but I don’t see it there yet. To find the items try to search for: survivor: the amazon
Am I the only one that thinks Jenna won basically because of the pity her Mom’s situation generated?
Jenna even said she deserved to win because Matt didn’t need the money and she did.
It’s a good theory, squeegee, but I doubt it. Why? Because if the jury had decided to give it to Jenna out of sympathy for her Mom, the producers would have played up that angle big time. Just imagine the headline–SURVIVORS AWARD MILLION TO AID AILING MOM. And on Mother’s Day, yet!
But during the reunion special there was not a single peep about Jenna’s mom.
So there’s got to be some other, less noble, reason.
Dead on. The line had tilted heavily towards Matt & Jenna. So somebody at CBS or in Mark Burnett’s company has a lot of ‘splainin’ to do.
Sure, but it’s the only theory that seems to make any sense whatsoever.
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Jenna was a shit to half the people who voted for her.
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She didn’t play the game half as well as Matt.
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But her Mom has Cancer.
Jury: “Awwww, let’s give it to Jenna, poor thing.”
which isn’t to say don’t have empathy for Jen’s Mom…
If someone would have told me before I watched the finale that Jenna was going to win, I would have been shocked and pissed, but for some reason watching it happend I wasn’t that upset. She really did come through in the end and admitted she learned a lot in the process.
I really don’t think the last 2 challenges were geared toward her at all - especially the blindfolded one, and if she would have lost that one she never would have made it to the second one. The final challenge is quite often a balancing one and I don’t think women have won balancing challenges that much more than the men. The challenges are going to always be easier for someone - people could say all the strength / endurance ones were geared for Matt.
After Rob was out I really didn’t care too much who won. I am glad that the others admitted that he played the game well, and I also think now that Jenna played better than she came across. I really had to admire the way she handled picking Matt over Rob - it was the right decision but it looked like she was picking the harder one to beat. Smartest thing she could ever do.
Even if I don’t like the overall winner I have to admit this was probably the most exciting finale ever - kept me guessing to the very end, and the twists kept coming. It was fitting in a way to not have the expected winner, the strong, confident one was voted off again.
This season was exciting because of Rob. I have to give credit to Burnett for this season - they played it right and got me hooked when I was pretty much done watching Survivor after the boring last season. I’d rather have the suspense and have an unworthy person win than watch alliances vote off people one by one.
I agree with everyone who noticed the change in Jenna and believes that her growth mitigated the shock of her winning.
As for Rob, I think he’s the kind of guy that you just can’t hate — almost no matter what he does to you. Probably because he’s so open and unashamed about it. He stabs backs without regard to race, creed, color, or national origin. He’s mischevious, but loveable. He might have won the million had he gone to the final two. I think Jenna realized that.
Jenna cleaned up looks like Catherine Zeta Jones.
Also cleaning up nicely: Deena. Did not recognize her sitting next to Christy. I thought she might be Christy’s sign language translator.
And Probst is getting to almost as good a reality host as the master, Anderson Cooper.
I think for Pearl Island they should bring back a couple of the voted out firsts, without telling anyone. Would they be recognized?
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For those people who missed it, an off-shore Internet betting outfit saw that everyone was betting on Jenna and Matt as the final two, so the resulting odds were heavily tilted in favor of those two and against anyone else.
Although this was probably at least partially a result of another spoiler,* the gambling site checked things out and discovered that since Survivor 4, a group of people had placed money pre-show on the contestants who turned out to be the final two. Thus, they nailed Neleh/Vecepia in S4 and Brian/Clay in S5. Long story short, it turns out that at least one of the bettors was a CBS employee, obviously with inside knowledge of who the final two were (but not, apparently, the winner of the final vote). They went to the press, and the press printed the story about 6 weeks ago.
*This is the semi-famous ChillOne thread at the Survivor Sucks board, where a guy vacationed at the same resort where filming was based just after the crew left. He was apparently able to learn enough from the locals to closely describe the cast before it was announced, and was reasonably accurate with who was going to get booted early and who was in the final four. Based on his descriptions of the contestants (names were not always strong points with his sources), it seemed even before the first episode aired that Jenna and (probably) Matt were the final two, and that Jenna was “better liked.” Debate about the legitimacy of the spoiler went on all season, but the information overall looks pretty good now that it’s over.
It would’ve been tough to be on that jury. It was so obvious tht Matt threw the IC, which I think was a bonehead move. As much as I would’ve hated voting for Jenna, it wou’d’ve been hard to vote for Matt knowing he took such a ridiculous gamble. Still, I’m very surprised by Christy’s vote. It’s one thing to brush off acts someone does as part of the game (back stabbing) but when someone treats you like shit for no reason, that’s a different story. It would’ve been interesting to see a Rob/Jenna face off.
Pardon, but why is it obvious that Matt threw the IC?
And if so, how could the jury know about that in any case (unless Rob told them) ?
I think it’s obvious to viewers that he might have thrown it because they showed us footage of him contemplating throwing it. The jury might have suspected that because they actually watched the last IC and Matt (who has been a killer competitor all season when he’s needed to) “fell” off the little perch so quickly it looked like he wasn’t really even trying or else like he just decided to quit.