Survivor April 13 2011 "The Buddy System"

Julie, Ralph and Steve must feel like the Eloy did in Time Machine. They know 3 more TCs and they will all be viewing the show from the jury box. It’s going to take a major blindside to catch Rob off guard this season.

Agreed. I predict that the next 3 episodes are going to be very dull as well.

I was surprised that they went to the merge without having shuffled the tribes beforehand. This is what they usually do to avoid Pagonging. I think they overestimated the effect of Redemption Island, and/or forgot the lesson they learned all the way back in season 1.

It does seem as if the former Zapateras are resigned to their fate at this point. I expected a little more trash talk doring the fish incident: “Really, you guys? Rob tells you not to eat fish and you don’t eat fish? Do you poop when he tells you to? Don’t you see what’s going on?” and so forth. Rob gave Dave a dirty look when he used the word “cult” at TC. They should have started with that talk a lot sooner, and more often. It was their only hope (albiet slim) of cracking the alliance. Now there’s no hope.

As has already been said, boring episode.

But here’s what Probst tweeted about next week:

NEXT WEEK - one of the most explosive TC’s ever. Ever.

(I’m not sure about the spoiler policy, so I’m playing it safe. But it doesn’t really reveal anything more than what you might get in a commercial–maybe even less. So feel free to look even if you don’t like spoilers.)

Just for the record, Jeff Probst is never shy with hyperbole. He does a have a financial interest in seeing the show succeed.

The problem for any potential flipper now is that they can’t make a difference unless they convince someone else to flip with them.
When it was 6-5, a flip could swing power completely, so that was out.
At 6-4, they could only hope for a 5-5 tie unless there was a sneak idol, too, but with the idol, they didn’t need to flip.
At 6-3, flipping only gets you 5-4, so it’s still a loss. The ONLY way flipping works if if they split the vote for some reason. The only reason to split the vote is if there is another idol in play and Rob is trying to draw it out. A 3-3-3 tie on its own would be interesting, but the plan in those cases is always to vote that way the first time, then consolidate the second votes, assuming the idol is not in play. If someone flipped the first vote and made it 2-3-4, then you’d be shocking the game…for one vote. The next round would be **4-**4 and it would get very interesting at that point.

I dunno, but I think the 6 are going to kick the 3, then it’ll get down to hurt feelings time.

The obvious wild card, now that I’ve type all this, is the RI player. Depending when they return, things could swing wildly.

Am I the only one who thinks the women just blatantly cheated on the challenge? The second segment of the hanging challenge was supposed to be “legs only,” but they were holding their feet with their hands. If you are using your arms to relieve the strain on your thighs, that ain’t “legs only.”

But hey, I guess if no one’s going to call you on it, why not break the rules?

The rule was you couldn’t touch the bar with your hands. David was holding his leg too.

Also, I’m curious as to why David used one leg. I couldn’t tell if he thought it would be easier to lock his legs together, or if he just couldn’t get his other leg over the bar.

Leverage. Obviously, it’d be easier if you were super bendy like the girls and can reach your feet with your hands (oh, Natalie…), but if you’re not, then one leg over with the other locking it in is better than just 2 legs over.

Uh, I don’t know about that. I tired it (yes) and it hurt like hell to do it with one leg locking the other. It put a lot of stress on the one leg that was over the bar and the bar was really digging in. I found it a lot more comfortable to distribute the weight onto both legs. Body type may make a big difference, though (I’m built more like Dave than Natalie).

There’s going to be more stress, but it’s easier in the long run. Also a big factor is the fact that the pole was really thick. Locking one leg allows you to shift the responsibility for flexing back and forth between legs - going both legs over you have flex both at the same time all the time because it’s so awkward.

  1. Grant has dominated the physical challenges and I wonder when someone will realize that he’s the biggest threat and try to mount a coup against him.

  2. Best line of the night: Steve (to Phil): “Did your great-grandfather (the full-blooded Cherokee) tell you to eat cheeseburgers today?”

  3. I hate Ashley’s cockiness and can’t wait for her to be sent home packing.

  4. Did Natalie throw Ashley under the bus? We saw Ralph try to get info out of the girls, but I never saw Ashley say that she wasn’t going to say anything to Rob.

  5. The hanging challenge obviously favored small girls, just as the first challenge (that included digging and spitting water from your mouth) favored the men.

  6. If Julie/Steve/Ralph are going to go in consecutive order (which they will given that none of them seem capable of beating Grant on physical challenges and the smaller women on endurance challenges), I wish they’d do like they did last night and just show consecutive challenges on the same night.

  7. I, too, wondered why they didn’t look longer for an HII. Rob’s team running back and getting shovels out was soooo undignified. I also picked up on Probst’s “Keep digging…” comment.

  8. I’ve gone from liking Rob to openly disliking him. Against all odds, I’m hoping that Julie wins.

  9. No one seems concerned at all about the RI person coming back into the game. I still think that the whole notion is a bust.

  10. Phil is a nut.

Rob has, and that’s why he stated to the camera that he is in no way in Rob’s top three. Grant will be the first to go from Rob’s group.

Well, they voted off Mike first because he has the best chance of beating Matt. The only person who could really have an effect on the game now by coming back would be Matt, if he can pull over an Ometepe or two. If Mike or David come back, they’ll be in the same position before.

After watching the unaired scene from the EW site I am even more wary of editing than I ever was.

Rob was really clear in the confessional why he was wary about the fish and it seems perfectly reasonable, while the editing leaned towards him convincing his team to skip the fish so he could control them. I must admit I found myself hoping that the Zap’s would suffer some intestinal penalty for eating sunbaked fish.

I suspect that the thing that is keeping the Oma 6 together is the lack of obvious mini alliances inside of them. If you knew for sure you were 5 or 6 on the list you have some motivation to jump but every single one of them thinks that they’re going to be in the final 3/4 with someone. The real fun of this season should start soon as they have to start voting themselves off.

Not until he saw the women were getting away with it.

In Rob’s secret scene, he says that the fish were laying in the sun for 2 hours. that is probably how long the tribe was gone, for the hanging challenge. The last time they gave the elapsed time was 45 minutes, so two hours away from camp was probably about how long they were gone. Accounting for travel from and to and production prep.

I would have a pretty good idea of the tides after three and half weeks and that is how I would judge how long the fish were in the sun. I think if it had been a real long time, there would have been some birds feasting on the free meal.

I probably would have eaten the fish.

And yes, there is a lot of material that we never see. Online forum were basically calling the tribemates dumbasses for not calling out Rob and his “Murlonio” tribe name. It wouldn’t surprise me that some of the tribe knew Rob was BSing but it was not worth the fighting that battle.

Oh, yeah, I’m well aware. I just thought it might mean that next week will hopefully be a bit more interesting than this week. (Not that that would be that hard to do…)

I’m not expecting an Edgardo TC, or anything.

:rolleyes: There was nothing to get away with. Probst said very clearly that they couldn’t touch any part of the structure with their hands.

Sorry but that is just not true. Went back and checked, and here’s what he said when first explaining the rules:

“After 20 minutes you will be allowed to use your legs only.”

Then during the first segment he reminded them:

“Switch to legs only after 20 minutes.”

And then as the 20 minutes ran out he said:

Were gonna move to legs only…You will have to let go of your arms.”

If you are using your arms to hold your feet, you are not using “legs only,” the phrase Jeff used three times.

Does it seem that (in the wide world, outside of Survivor) whenever someone claims “full-blooded” Indian ancestry, it’s *always *Cherokee? No one ever says “full blooded Ohlone” or Anasazi or Chickasaw.