Can’t answer the question, but this does remind me: this may be the 2nd time in show history that somebody built a fire by rubbing sticks together. That was pretty awesome.
That is a great question. Did anyone see the text of the idol paper? Did it say before the next challenge, she’d have to give it away?
It had to be given away before the next Tribal Council, as I noted above.
Does anyone have a screen capture of the II note?
I’m amazed at how many people didn’t pick up on the fact there was a time limit. It was both in the note (excusable, as it was on-screen briefly) as well as mentioned explicitly by her.
Because I apparently had nothing better to do: http://i44.tinypic.com/2czoutw.jpg
Also, her exact words were “The rules say it’s for the [other] tribe and I Had to give it up before the next Tribal Counsel.”
Preach it!
Do you have a copy of the long form note? 
Jesus Lord, he’s Ross freakin’ Matthews’ gayer twin!
Anyway, I had trouble finding someone I actually LIKED, too. The Asian guy is cute. We have a little person for the first time on Survivor. The alpha males are assholes. Half the women are infuriatingly stereotypical…“Let’s go over to the men’s camp in our bikinis and beg them for fire because we’re just women and really shouldn’t be expected to do hard things on Survivor.” If your whole Survivor strategy is to charm the men into winning the game for you, it’s been done a couple of times already. Unless you can add a LOT of actual cunning and strategy smarts to that, like Parvati brought, you’re not going too far.
Thanks!
jayjay, so a cute girl who can actually DO stuff has a shot?
Ah, the cheerleaders and the jocks post. Surprised it took this long. All women who are good looking are sluts and guys who work out are assholes. You could cast a season with only Stanford PhD’s who run orphanages but if they have nice boobs or some muscles they’ll be described as sluts and jerks.
No, the “guys who work out” are being described as douchebags because they are douchebags. Lief Manson looks pretty buff, too, but he didn’t act like a total jerk. The females who are being “sluttified” are those who didn’t bother to learn basic skills like fire-making, and who thought that having tits entitles them to aid for their opponents. Kim and Kate spent their time actually trying to, you know, make fire.
Totally uncalled for and to be honest, showing a lack of having read our Survivor threads over the years.
Kim, who I think has a real shot at winning, is hot and non-slutty.
After one episode, it is hard to remember many people, but there plenty of quieter guys who(as a straight man) I rather assume are hot, but a lot of the ones they showed talking were D-bags to the max.
Yes, the women with boobs should have learned how to make fire. Considering last night was the first time in 24 seasons of Survivor that anyone has made fire without outside aid (glasses), that is the weakest criticism imaginable.
What others replied already. No, not all hot girls are sluts. I didn’t call them sluts, and I don’t consider them sluts. They’re simply trying an obsolete Survivor strategy that only the dumbest men on the show fall for in its simple form anymore. A woman who tries to go the “I’m a hot chick and all you big, strong men should do everything for me” route needs to bring more to the game, like Parvati did (at least in her later appearances), or expect it not to work.
And I do not consider the alpha males assholes because of what their muscles look like. I consider them assholes because of what came out of their mouths.
How long have you been watching Survivor? The thing about the women is especially egregious, because some women try it every season, and it’s worn out.
Yes, I suppose that walking around in your underwear means you are trying to win the game by being all sexy-like, not because you are on a tropical island in the heat and humidity. I guess secret agent man and Poindexter from last season (and the Mormon woman) were all guilty of that. Funny how nobody complained that they were using sex appeal. I guess the hot girls should keep their sweaty clothes on while everyone else cools off.
Are you little Hantz?
I assume it was “creative editing” but it sure appeared that the guys lit a fire faster than seemed possible. I was amazed that the gals were unable to light a fire, given that it appeared someone had a pair of glasses being held out there to refract the sun… that, and the fact that they were unable to keep the fire going once they stole the ember from the guys.
You never know what reallyhappens in camp, but the editors sure capitalized on a few specific events which pitted the teams against each other:
-guys steal gals “stuff”
-gals grab two chickens and do not share with guys
-guys refuse to share fire/supplies
-gals try to get close to campfire, guys refuse
-guys end immunity challenge when gal gets hurt
I have no idea which of your relatives I murdered to make you go off on this inexplicable rant-a-thon you’ve decided to aim at me. I’ve never had any kind of problem with you on here before, so it’s kind of a mystery to me why you’d just instantaneously decide to interpret my post in the worst possible way (and, frankly, the most ridiculous one, as well…you’re bending “benefit of the doubt” to extreme limits, given just what show we’re discussing). Is your girlfriend/wife/daughter/sister one of the women’s tribe or something?
I fear the challenges have been permanently nerfed.
I suspect that Mark Burnett and his minions spent a lot of time hand-wringing over the male-female split, and what to do about challenges that would obviously favor upper-body strength, etc.
So they punted.