In the past I’ve said many times that I have no issue with returning players, but I have to admit that it’s refreshing having all new players. When was the last time we had all new players, anyone remember?
I normally side with the guys, but wow, they suck. Oddly I already hate that the gay guy is set to break up the alpha males, which makes no sense because I want them broken up. I’d rather the girls beat them straight up in a competition, because that would be incredibly satisfying.
Love Chelsea to death. She caught my eye almost immediately with her tight little grey shirt, and then she caught both chickens, the second while still holding the first. In any other season she’d be the hot chick who gets voted off first, but this season, miracle of miracles, she appears to be in a position of strength in her tribe. She’s definitely my early rooting interest to win it all, so by extension I’m fully on board with her alliance. That it’s an alliance of hot chicks is serendipity.
My second favorite is the little guy. Him and Chelsea in final two would be ideal for me.
I’m guessing over half of these contestants came from southern California.
I apologize if I was over the top. It’s nothing personal. I guess I’ve just finally have had enough of the “hot girls are dumb and mean and big guys are ignorant lunks” meme that is so prevalent on these boards. Survivor threads are loaded with it.
I think it started with Rupert - people would swoon over him and couldn’t wait to throw millions of dollars at an at best mediocre player who at times was among the worst players to ever play the game (Make a shelter in a rainforest out of sand.) It was even worse last season when people continued to root for and support Cochran, who was not only physically useless, but mean, bitter, and misogynistic. By the end nobody liked him (on the show), none of his “moves” ever worked, and he was more likely to single-handedly lose a challenge than contribute in any way to a win. Put either of those guys attributes in an athletes body and they’d be among the most hated players of all time, but in a burly, bearded body or a skinny one with glasses, they’re heroes.
Drives me nuts. The show isn’t a morality play about your (the universal your) high school experiences.
I’m with you, Lamar. Describes my feelings quite well.
EDIT: On the general sentiment, I mean. I don’t particularly associate jayjay as one of the highschool trauma avengers, and think you may have read into his post a little. The entire board is awash in it, though, so I get why you may have read it that way.
So when the guys are stealing the supplies, or the girls are stealing the fire, what are the rules from physically attempting to stop them?
If someone has fire and I want, can I just keep walking and start shoving people out of the way? It looks like one of the girls tried to do that and the guy physically blocked her. What if she was faster does she get it? Can he lay hands on her?
I’d really like to see the group of girls go over there and tell the guys they will have to restrain them or else they are taking the fire. Either that or taking a bucket of water and putting it out. And conversely I’d like to see the guys say, yeah we stole your stuff and are going to steal the rest too, what are you going to do about it?
Basically I want Lord of the Flies mixed with Beyond Thunderdome.
You can’t physically assault another player, nor may you conspire to split the prize money. Other than that, just about anything goes unless Jeff doesn’t like it.
I assure you that there is nothing personal with regards to jayjay. I could have gone off on another post or even in a completely different and unrelated thread.
I almost never get sick and I am suffering through a horrible head cold right now. I have been quite cranky for a few days and I just went off. jayjay was just in the wrong place at the right time. No offense.
I wonder how they define assault and how far a group of people are willing to push it. Like, you have fire and I don’t. Give it to me or i will put yours out with buckets of water or urinating in your camp a la Seinfeld. This group of guys seems like big enough assholes, but when push comes to shove I’m guessing they don’t go super dominant or intimidating on the women.
In my opinion, what you described would be allowed. It would be ratings gold. Like when Naonka went after the girl with the prosthetic leg, and it wasn’t treated as an assault. The producers like villains.
Without fire they can’t boil water. This could put them at risk for various game-affecting gastrointestinal evils. Two or three days without water in their circumstances isn’t good either.
I think they don’t. One of the guys specifically mentioned that the girls couldn’t get drinking water without a fire, and how that would work to the guy’s advantage. (I want to say it was the douche bag lawyer guy, but I dislike him so much I’m probably just making him the source of all evil.)
I hate that dude too, but I don’t know if he was the one who said that. Either way, it’s not “evil,” it’s just good sense. They should not have caved in and made that frond-weaving-for-fire deal either; you have to take any competitive advantage you can get. …Though it wasn’t made clear whether that deal ever even came to fruition. The girls seemed pretty excited to get the flint at Tribal Council.
That crazy chick (Alicia?) at TC was hilarious. There was no reason to get that confrontational that early. You just know she walked back to camp thinking “I really showed them, I’m a strong woman and they all respect me now,” while all the others were thinking, “Holy crap, we have to get rid of this crazy bitch yesterday!”
They haven’t had a clean source of water in a long time. They used to make a point of saying they had to boil it, but now it’s just assumed.
It was actually a pretty good move for the guys (and I’m pretty sure the deal went down). The tribes usually both get flint after the first challenge anyway, so trading them fire one day earlier isn’t a bad idea. I think the girls were excited for flint so they wouldn’t have to go back to the guys every time the fire goes out (remember they stole the fire the first night but they couldn’t keep it going).
FWIW, I think there’s a lot of truth in what you’re saying and I never understood the great Rupert love. I always thought he was a completely delusional asshole since the first season he was on when he flipped out the first time someone tried to vote him out and ran all over the beach yelling “WHO VOTED FOR ME!? WHO VOTED FOR ME?!” like someone had just stolen his favorite pet pony and later on gave that weird speech about how he had to make sure that people would accept their “places of honor” be voted out and let him win.
Yes, for those who’ve forgotten, Rupert genuinely expected everyone to just lay down on their sword and let him win and never try to vote him out.
Similarly, while he wasn’t as bad, I always found Ozzie incredibly arrogant and quite dumb and never understood all the love he generated.
That said, there’ve been lots of really good-looking guys and girls who were extremely popular. Look at Stephanie Lagrossa or Danni from Nicaragua or Natalie(the girl who dragged Russell to the end to be her goat). As for the guys, lots of people loved and still love Boston Rob, Colby, fireman Tom, and, my personal favorite Survivor of all time, Yul.
As to the episode:
I found the stopping of the challenge and the decision to give the guys the opportunity to either “continue” or “accept the win” just a bullshit way to stir up drama despite Probst’s claim that “nine people have to finish.”
We’ve had God knows how many contests where someone has gotten injured and I can’t remember when they’ve ever simply declared it over. Temporarily stop it while getting medical attention for the person who got injured yes, but never just ended it.
How hard would it have been to instruct the men to simply choose one guy to sit out(presumably Colton) and then continue.
Like I said, just an attempt to stir up trouble.
I also can’t believe the women were so pissed at the men for not agreeing to continue. If the men had continued I’d have said that would have been one of the biggest mistakes in all of Survivor history. Granted, I’ll give Kim credit for saying she understood after she calmed down.
Also, I’m not sure if Sabrina made the right decision on who to give the idol too.
Obviously she had to give it to one of the men, but while I can see she’d want to give it to Colton to keep the weakest most isolated man on the men’s tribe and also as a way to eliminate one of the stronger men, I think that was the mistake.
If I’d been her, once Colton outlined the factions on the tribe, I’d have given it to the guy he listed as the leader of the Alpha male faction. Once they get merged, he’s more likely than Colton to be in a position to do her favors than Colton.
