Survivor Season 30 (spoilers)

How is that relevant?

EDIT: Unless you’re saying that it’s actually a good strategic move to weaken the tribe so they lose all the pre-merge challenges like the Brains did? And to clarify, I’m not saying it’s a bad move to vote out Vince. I’m saying that it’s not overly bad because having three teams mitigates the damage of voting out a strong player.

More to the point, how the hell does “law student” count as a no-collar team member?

I’m just saying that the first few votes are not critical to the long-term game (except for the people voted out). If the producers would man up and let a tribe get voted out of existence, it’d be different, but we all know that if one tribe gets down to two or three people, there’ll be a merge/mashup and it’ll be time for a whole new strategy. The only strategy that doesn’t make people targets for the first few votes is to not be an asshole. The first person to get voted out these days is usually the one who hits the ground running for the finish line while everybody else is still trying to figure out how to build a fire and whether or not they should eat scorpions.

Oh, gotcha. I thought you responding in the context of the conversation about how bad of a move it was to vote out Vince, since that’s what you quoted.

As an unrelated observation, yep, totally agree.

Sorry, I was thinking about the rationale behind voting So out. Vince got voted out because he was batshit crazy, the second of three classic reasons for early vote-off (the third is really, really, really sucking at challenges).

Something else I just remembered… pretty much every season, early on they show some dedicated “must have PROTEIN” type eating bugs or worms, not only raw but still alive. This season, it’s a scorpion. They never show people eating that crap again. They may be eating snails, but they’re cooking them.

Tyler is the son of one of my co-workers. I am not a fan of this show at all but I will watch for as long as he’s alive. You can tell by how he talks that his former employer told him in no uncertain terms not to use their name whereas the person who worked at Yahoo! was given permission.

I watched part of the first few seasons because my ex-wife liked the show. Until this season, I haven’t seen an episode in over a decade. I hope that this isn’t taken as a threadshit but isn’t it blatantly obvious that things are selectively and strategically edited and we have no idea what it really going on? Each contestant meets with the producers every day and are given “suggestions” on how to play and what strategy to use according to my source.

If I was going to be on the show, I would become a serious student of the game. I would watch every single past season and use that to shape my play. And why doesn’t every person practice the hell out of making fire and catching fish? I know that some of them have done this but it’s insane to me that everyone doesn’t do the same thing.

Do they clue them into what will be happening in future challenges? It seemed too coincidental to me that that one group was taking basketball shots and then it ended up at the end of the challenge.

Sometimes they’ll give the tribes a clue about the upcoming challenge, usually a mini-version of whatever mechanism or game will feature. They’ve done this for Big Brother before, too, giving them a rudimentary version of the mechanism they’ll use for the upcoming challenge so they can practice.

FWIW, it was BRAWN that won the Brains vs Brawn vs Beauty season.

Tony the cop won the season. FTC included Woo (Brawns) who got one vote and Cass (Brains) who got zero votes.

I understand your point, and all other things being equal, I agree that it’s better to favor strong players over weak ones in TC eliminations. However, I believe that the dysfunction and disruption caused by unstable, emotional players often outweighs the advantages of keeping them. Rupert’s a good example; although he was considered a strong player, he was very ego-driven and could bully his tribemates into bad decisions.

I also don’t blame Will for his vote at all. If I was playing Survivor and I learned that a strong and/or popular tribemate wanted me out, I’d do everything I could to get rid of that player, and to hell with “keeping the tribe strong.” I’d also do my best to get rid of a charismatic player who would be difficult to beat at FTC, regardless of that person’s challenge strengths. What’s the point of winning the pre-merge challenges if it simply clears the star player’s path to the million bucks? I’d rather get that player out ASAP and take my chances with the challenges. I’m not saying that’s the “correct” way to play Survivor, but that’s what I’d do (and I don’t think there’s one correct way to play anyway).

Chances are pretty good that there will be a tribe shakeup within the next three episodes and it will be down to two tribes.

I don’t think losing Vince is that big of a deal for No Collar.

I think losing Vince will be good for their ability to just chill and let things flow, which is kind of ironic considering that’s all he wanted to do. He just sucked at it.

As she explained, she’s one of the bleeding heart types that is going to law school because she has dreams of working for a non-profit (or maybe the public defender) and helping all the poor/downtrodden people. I think its a decent enough fit.

Provided the downtrodden aren’t deaf, she should do okay.

One challenge per episode make for a boring episode.

I wonder what Yahoo Executives will think of their co-worker getting turned on by Hot and Steamy Monkey Sex.

I am ready for Blue Collar Tribe to go to Tribal Council. The guys all appear to be asswipes.

Two hour episode next week. Good time for a tribal shakeup.

Because the producers thought that her being on that team would make for good tv. You’re acting as if this was real life.

I don’t see why Will got two votes. Didn’t the other three form a bloc?

I agree, but Redemption Island all but killed the reward challenges, and when they have three tribes, they don’t have them until there is some sort of a merge (down to two or one tribe.) I think it was seen as too expensive and logistically challenging to run them with a group of three. Just finding land wide enough to run three tribes on side by side may be difficult, and it would be unfair to just have a bunch of water challenges.

The bootee was a real pain in the ass and what they said at Tribal Council was all true. If you can’t deal with having a disability then don’t come on Survivor in the first place. They’ve had amputees and other deaf people on the show who didn’t feel the need to whine about it 24/7.

She was so into it I’m sure she also talked about touching herself while watching hot monkey sex. Naturally it was edited out but you know she did.

I was pleasantly surprised that CBS was willing to air someone saying “Who built that fire? You’re fucking god? No, I did!” That guy does seem like a total pain in the ass.

The three may have tossed a vote Will’s way just in case Nina had an idol. That way they wouldn’t wind up with one of them accidentally getting voted out.

I’m really wondering about Nina. She’s presented on the show as a “Hearing Advocate”, which strikes me as an odd way of putting it - if anything, she should be an “Advocate for the Deaf” or something. She had hearing for most of her life, and only went deaf 7 years ago. And she’s clearly no longer deaf - if those cochlear implants mean she’s able to have a conversation with someone in the dark, as long as they speak clearly, she’s doing better than most of my elderly relatives. I wonder what actual deaf-from-birth people think of her.

The entire tribe should have been named Pain in the Ass. As noted above, it’ll be hilarious when they go to TC. They’ll probably all wind up voting for each other, in a 6-way tie, due to noone being willing to align with anyone else.

Come to think of it, obnoxious tribes, or the next time tribe that loses its flint, should suffer the penalty of having Probst change their team name. I can see Jeff doing the play-by-play on a challenge, and thrusting his arms in the air and shouting “Assholes! Win! Immunity!”