Diogenes:
You may want to rethink your premise that women don’t really care if they go without sex.
I don’t think that’s the case for even the majority of women. Quite honestly, all the women I know like and desire sexual release just as much as the men I know.
They don’t usually come? Then I guess I got lucky…I found one who does.
And as for sex as only a way to bust a nut … fella, intimacy is about a lot of stuff. Orgasm is but a part of it (for us, anyway).
You don’t happen to have a fascination with the male circumsized penis, do you? A strong desire to "un"circumcie it by stretching existing skin over the head to give it a new foreskin?
Um.
No.
IME, when people brag about “saving themselves for their wedding night” they’re the kind of people the OP was railing about.
OTOH, those of us who have had it “thrust” upon us either don’t generally discuss it, or - if it comes up - acknowledge it, but don’t “brag” about it.
I’m not saving myself for marriage. (For one thing, I don’t ever intend to get married.) I am, however, a virgin, because the only guys who have ever come on to me IRL have been creepy, looking for a “mommy”, or untrustworthy. Neither trait is acceptable to me, so, virginity it is. (AFAIK no woman has ever come on to me, so I can’t speak to that end of the spectrum.)
I don’t care if the guy/gal respects me in the morning. I have to respect myself. And I’m not going to go out and bang the next guy/gal I see just so folks like featherlou won’t see me as a “freak.”
End of story.
Uh oh, does this mean I shouldn’t have crapped on my hand and thrown it at that guy that cut me off on the way to work today? Damn–featherlou almost convinced me that acting ‘natural’ was where it’s at…
a. In my very humble opinion, anyone who gets MARRIED to someone with the expectation of being married to them for the rest of their lives without discussing something as bizarre as sexual fetishes has made their own bed. Like I said, I have some VERY strange fantasies and sexual preferences and I discussed them with my husband for months before we were married.
b. maybe to YOU nothing is gained by waiting…but for me, it made our wedding ceremony and honeymoon that much more ‘special’. It just felt very magical and spirtual to finally join together (even though we were fucking exhausted and there was a Miami Dolphins game on) as husband and wife.
like I’ve said seven times in this thread: YMMV.
eek! You better keep that under wraps minty. If Bush’s approval rating drops much more he may come to “disarm” you!
Enjoy,
Steven
Yeah, minty, one of those rusty, hollow shells they put the mustard gas in. 
Diogenes, I’ll take you at your word that you’re not as crude as you sound. Might you be just the slightest bit ignorant about female sexual desire, though? “Women don’t care if the sex is crappy”? My word. “Most never come anyway”? You basically admit that you don’t know how to give a woman an orgasm and you expect us to take your opinions about sexuality seriously?
At any rate, I personally do not place importance on virginity as mating criteria. I expect to end up with a woman who does not insist that her husband be a virgin on their wedding night, because otherwise she wouldn’t have me. If I fall in love with a woman who will only settle for a male virgin, I’m out of luck, and I accept that fact.
However, if a woman placed a high value on her own virginity, and we fell in love and got married, and she said “Look! I saved this for you. I give my body to you and only you because to me, that represents the highest level of commitment to another person” then I would say “Thank you” and actually mean it. Not because virginity means something to me, but because it means something to her. If she had just never had sex before because she never felt like it, and virginity didn’t mean something special to her, then it wouldn’t mean something special to me either.
In the second paragraph, that should be “a mating criterion.” Must have number agreement.
Arisu can I join your club? I honestly feel the same way. before I was celebate because of religious reasons, but now it’s more of a thing that I don’t have anyone. If I did, I probably would not be virgin anymore.
Beautifully put.
Then it wouldn’t be an analogy any longer, it would start to actually demonstrate equivalency or congruency.
Evacuation of the bowels or bladder can be a great feeling. I know I have sometimes wished that I could get that warm, intensely pleasureable feeling of finally being able to pee after being compelled to hold it in for whatever reason. It is a peculiar and particular type of ecstacy.
The analogy is valid depending on why we are comparing them. A bad analogy is still an analogy, you know? I must agree with you in fact that sex-for-pleasure being compared to evacuation-as-necessity is inappropriate as hell.
Moreover, sexual reproduction is about as natural of a process as one can get. I don’t know how one could even begin to hypothesize otherwise. Certainly no one here has said anything worthwhile on the topic.
However, I do not agree with the camp that doesn’t find virginity or chastity to be unnatural. No creature is fucking all the time, and indeed it wouldn’t be that great for our species if we did. Both fucking and not-fucking is natural.
Siddhartha fucking Gautma, I was joking.
Look, most women do not have orgasms every time they have sex. Many women never have orgasms at all. (I know, I know, all the women on SDMB come like the tide whenever their partners smile at them :rolleyes:)Whether a woman is orgasmic or not has very little to do with her partner’s cocksmanship. It helps if the partner has some skill. It helps even more if the partner is caring and patient. But to say that a woman’s orgasm is entirely dependant on the partner’s performance is inaccurate and ignorant.
That’s just for when the U.N. inspectors come around.
First, I feel the need to say that my penis is not big. It’s only 3 inches long, and I keep it in a jar. What can I say, they offered free shipping.
I’d join too. I don’t think not having screwed anyone makes me better than anyone else, but for some unnatural reason I’m waiting to meet someone who seems worth the risks associated with sex (contracting a disease or getting pregnant, not to mention the risks of even more severe heartbreak if things don’t work out) before I fuck them. How silly of me, instead of merely seeing it as a biological process, I weigh the consequences of it much the way I do with other activities with potentially serious end results.
Keep it down, would you? My husband reads these boards 
And none of us sluts on the board think about the results of our massive and hideous sluttiness.
:rolleyes:
The only person calling you a slut Mockingbird is, well, you.
And I’m struggling to find where elfkin suggested such a thing.
Exactly. It’s a matter of the opportunity not yet having presented itself.
Now I’m trying to think of an appropriate Latin motto for my new club…
Portae clausae. Abstinemus, sed non semper delectu.
We’ll inscribe it on our Freak Placards.