Oops. I do not agree with the camp that finds it to be unnatural as there is nothing unnatural about not having sex. Sorry.
I LOVE virgin boys! I’ve had several, and they are so eager to please! They will do anything, and do it * exactly the way you want it. * No ingrained bad habits or hangups.
Yep, young and trainable. That’s how I like 'em.
Diogenes, you’ve already admitted that you’e been pulling your pathetic little generalizations about female sexual response out of your ass, so why don’t you stop already? It’s getting old and pointless.
Is this where guys with big dicks check in? Sorry I am late.
Has anyone ever found a lost virginity? Has one ever been sighted?
All the people in the house with a big dick, say, Ooooow!
Yeah so? I am using his body to do the same.
Oh, I used to have a big dick but I divorced him.
And you know this how exactly?
Because unless you can come up with a reputable cite, it sounds like exactly the kind of bullshit a man who’s really bad in bed says. That is, of course, just my personal opinion based on having heard that from a couple of guys who were really shitty in bed.
Yep, because everyone knows there’s no such thing as unplanned pregnancies once you’re married.
I think that statement by Diogenes has revealed more about his performance in bed that he wanted to.
In my experience women consistently have at least one orgasm during sex. And I’m not trying to brag or bullshit you - I’m serious.
I’m not trying to say I’m a sex god, I’m just an average guy who enjoys satisfying his partner. If my partner is not satisfied then nor am I, this is a big thing for me. I know that many guys will agree with me here.
For women in general, on average, I have no idea how many women orgasm, but I would suspect it would be more than Diogenes might think.
If this is not sarcasm… hi! 
Or STDs! That never happens!
Not that I’m into defending Diogenes or anything, but perhaps he meant a lot of women have trouble having orgasm from peepee in the buhgina alone, rather than by oral or manual means.
Could that be it Dio?
I got news for ya, samarm, they’re faking it.
What jarbaby said was pretty close to what i meant. It is statistically true that most women do not have orgasms from intercourse alone. (although, oddly enough, the ones who do tend to be multi-orgasmic) Oral sex oobviously works pretty well, but even so, roughly one third of all women do not have orgasms at all (I googled it). The difference seems to be masturbation. Women who masturbate have a much easier time achieving an orgasm than women who don’t.
Please note that I didn’t say most women don’t come ever, I said that most women don’t come every time and that some women don’t come ever. Is anyone seriously disputing either one of these assertions? Come on, ladies, you know I’m telling the truth.
And enough of the horseshit accusations about how good I am, or am not in bed. Mrs. Diogenes has no complaints. I am not selfish, but I am resigned to the fact that sometimes she’s just doing it for me. We can’t all be married to porn stars. Having kids kind of tamps down the mood a little bit.
I can only speak for myself, but:
- My partner thinks masterbation is disgusting
- I really don’t think she is faking it (see my posts)
- She has had three kids
And, Diogenes, I’m sorry for the stuff about your performance in bed, I know I wouldn’t like that said about me.
Gee, take things out of context, much? I was sarcastically replying to the OP belching his mindless “virginity is bad, sex is good, and by the way, I have a BIG DICK, so nyah nyah!”.
My point (and you and Broomstick and erislover all missed it entirely), was that much as anyone sexually active has to take care to avoid complications such as the ones I listed, virgins don’t have to worry about it. And I repeat, this is a bad thing? For Broomstick to then declare that heavy petting resulted in an STD is absurd. Are we then to start debating the meaning of the word ‘is’ again? Has Clinton changed our common terminology that much? If so, let me be precise. I would define a virgin to be one who abstains from sexual contact, not merely sexual intercourse. BLOW JOBS are sex. Not intercourse, but SEX. That teenagers have somehow (Clinton) come to believe that oral sex is not (duh!) sex, that STD’s are thus not a concern, well, it just boggles the mind.
If you prefer to to define ‘virgin’ in any other manner, please so specify. Splicing the semantics to this degree is simply an attempt to have it both ways, (I’ve done everything except missionary style, so I’m still as pure as the driven snow! Hah!) and is dishonest in the main. I wouldn’t even defend the blatant hypocrisy inherent in this viewpoint, and would declare the terminology null and void of any reasoned application. Newspeak will indeed have taken over.
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I can only speak for myself, but:
- My partner thinks masterbation is disgusting
- I really don’t think she is faking it (see my posts)
- She has had three kids
And, Diogenes, I’m sorry for the stuff about your performance in bed, I know I wouldn’t like that said about me.**
Well, I was just talking about percentages, there are no absolutes. The research show that women who masturbate are significantly more likely to be orgasmic. It doesn’t say that it’s an absolute necessecity.
I didn’t mean that having children per se was a mood killer, but having a baby wake up and start crying right in the middle of the action tends to chill out the mood quite a bit
I’m the same way with women as you. I get more from satisfying her than I do for myself, but it’s not as easy for women, and if they’re not orgasmic or just not in the mood, sometimes there’s just nothing the guy can do. If you’ve never once had sex without the woman having an orgasm, then you are either very lucky, very limited in your experience, or very gullible. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say lucky.
On whether Western culture favors virginity or experience:
I don’t know that I would have made that comparison, but since you’ve brought it up I’m willing to go with it. Do you truly believe racism (or looking down on people’s sexual experience) is a dominant, mainstream view? Racism has been satirized since “All in the Family”; hyper-moralism has been fodder for laughs since The Church Lady on “Saturday Night Live”. I don’t question that there are still people who hold to each of those views, but they are scoffed at (if not outright condemned) in popular culture. You say yourself that it’s “covert”, hardly what you’d want for an idea to captivate the masses. Meanwhile “American Pie”, a movie about a boy so desperate to fit in and lose his virginity that he pursues an intimate, physical encounter with a dessert, sold over one-hundred-million dollars worth of tickets in the U.S. alone. My cave must be wired for cable.
[sub]Please note, this is not a Hollywood-is-leading-us-to-hell-in-a-handbasket rant. I just think people who argue in favor of sexual experience shoot themselves in the foot when they suggest that there’s anything unconventional or rebellious about it.[/sub]
Not at all. My sweetie was practically a virgin when we got together, and now he is miles ahead of any man I’ve ever been with. Alot to be said for inexperience…fertile soil.
Diogenes said:
Yes of course I have had sex where she has not had an orgasm. I was referring to my longterm girlfriends, of which I have had only three. I should have probably phrased it as “she commonly has an orgasm”. YMMV. Again, I was hoping some other guys would come in and support my statement but that doesn’t seem to have happened. 
NaSultannie: Are you confusing heavy petting with oral sex? To me, heavy petting means kissing and touching, but without the mouth touching the genitals. It is possible to contract an STD even just through kissing, by the way.
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Yes of course I have had sex where she has not had an orgasm. I was referring to my longterm girlfriends, of which I have had only three. I should have probably phrased it as “she commonly has an orgasm”. YMMV. Again, I was hoping some other guys would come in and support my statement but that doesn’t seem to have happened. **
Ah, well that makes sense and sounds more believable. FTR I’ve been with Mrs. D since I was pretty young (early twenties) and didn’t have a ton of experience before then. That is, I had experience but I didn’t really know what I was doing. I’ve learned a lot, though, in thirteen years.