Terell Owens shoots himself in the foot yet again

mhendo brings up an interesting point that’s understandably not getting much play. The Eagles organization absolutely mishandled the hell out of this situation.

Before anybody starts reading, um, this has been brewing for a while, so once I get rolling I’m probably going to go on and on and on, and it’ll probably have little to do with bashing TO, which is what this thread’s about, so, sorry.

Flash back to before the team acquired Owens. Obviously, the Eagles knew that he was a total asshole who wouldn’t hesitate to rip his teammates and do his best to disrupt everything around him. They also knew that they had to hurry the fuck up and get a receiver before they were no longer a championship caliber team on other fronts. So they decided to take the gamble, and as far as I’m concerned, that was the right decision. It seemed clear to me that the organization wanted him on the team for last year, and only last year, and that they would keep him around for the 05-06 season or until there was serious trouble, whichever came first.

Like I said, I was all for it then, and nothing happened to change my mind – he turned a mediocre offense into an unstoppable offense. People who say that they didn’t need TO, they just needed a slight upgrade at the spot weren’t paying attention to how the Eagles lost those three straight NFC championships. Eagles receivers could be completely locked down by a good defense in previous years. The second Owens stepped on the field, everything changed. McNabb was a better quarterback, each receiver found it much easier to get open, and the defense was able to pin back its ears with the early leads. It was a perfect match in football terms, so they absolutely did not make a mistake in trading for this bastard. Here’s where Reid and Co. fucked up, though – they gave him their typical nickel-and-dime contract offer. It’s all well and good that they have this reputation for fiscal responsiblity, and that they feel like they have the blueprint for success – overpay tackles, defensive backs, quarterback and defensive ends, replenish ahead of time via the draft and cut everybody over 30 years old who wants a payday, etc. It’s also fantastic that they can sit firmly on the high ground and point to the fact that TO signed the contract, but they had to know that a 2005 salary of $3.5 million wasn’t going to make Owens happy when it came down to it. They needed to bite the bullet one time and pay the guy 8 million the first year, 8 million the second year, or something like that, then cut him loose like they were planning to do anyway. They’re 11 million under the cap right now, for fuck’s sake – if you aren’t going to keep Corey Simon around then why the hell can’t TO have three million of that in base salary this year so he’ll (sort of) shut his fucking mouth? When you get in bed with a prostitute, you know what you’re getting into, and calling her a whore at the end of the night just makes you look silly.

From my perspective, Eagles poisoned their own well by leveraging that weird arbitration situation to get Owens on the cheap, when they had to know that they were shaking hands with the devil. Last year, TO was happy, the Eagles were happy, and if Owens didn’t break his leg, you have to say that they would have had a pretty good chance to win the Super Bowl. All according to the plan, except for Roy Williams being a bitch. Then this offseason, Drew Rosenhaus enters the picture and says Hey TO, baby, you’re worth more than 3.5, aren’t you? which led to the holdout, the suspension, the sports media forcefeeding TO inflammatory questions like they were going to sell his liver, the unbelievably childish and misguided efforts by the organization to freeze TO out but keep him on the field, including not announcing the 100th touchdown – did you know that Owens’ likeness doesn’t appear on any of the Eagles media materials, signs in the stadium, or any of the little video screen highlights packages? and here we are now. Obviously, it’s ultimately TO’s fault because he’s a cock, but his being a cock was a pre-existing condition, and the Eagles chose to treat him like they had no idea about his, er, eccentricities.

I do want to point out that this TO situation, while it’s certainly closely paralleled the mini-decline of the team, isn’t exactly the source of the problems. First of all, Donovan McNabb is hurt. Hurt badly. So, step one, we start with the franchise quarterback experiencing a lot of discomfort every time he makes any kind of core movement of his body. Step two, Correll Buckhalter and Todd Pinkston both go out for the season, so any thoughts of a straight-ahead running game, however minimal they were to begin with, are out, and the receiving corps besides Terrell Owens has about a half-season in combined NFL experience. Step three, a very important step, the head coach has lost his mind, and we’re going to throw the ball sixty times a game (go look at step one again, and think about step three). OK, step four, an excellent young return specialist tears his knee to shreds, the special teams captain leaves via free agency, another key special teamer moves into a starting linebacker spot, your Pro Bowl kicker tears his hamstring and now the punter’s out for the season – special teams goes from a huge strength to a glaring weakness. Step five, what else? The defense takes a big step backwards, allowing big pass plays where it never did in the passing game, possibly due to the fact that Corey Simon is cut just for the hell of it, Derrick Burgess leaves for big money in Oakland, and Jerome McDougle gets SHOT, and Jevon Kearse stops being Jevon Kearse, evidently. In other words, no pass rush. Plus the division is finally improving. All in all, it’s no wonder the season has been a complete disaster – and then you look again and the team is 4-3.

The way ESPN phrased it was that he’s been told to stay home, so I’m sure he won’t be on the sidelines.

Fox pre-game said that Owens got into a fight with another team member AND then invited the rest of the team for a brawl. :rolleyes: What a loser.

I gotta say that if I had the opportunity to make that kind of money and all I had to do was my job AND try to keep my mouth shut, I absolutely could keep my mouth shut. In fact, I could easily go the other way and be the best cheer leader the team ever saw.

Again, what a loser.

Where did I say he ran over some one? I said “trying”. Plus, if you think it isn’t a big deal, try doing it yourself and let us know what happens.

Khadaji’s reference.
Wonder why he won’t be on the sidelines? I actually tried to justify him in Green Bay next year. :rolleyes:

I was watching the Bengals-Ravens game (fucking useless Ravens) today, and i saw a graphic on the bottom of the screen that said that T.O. had not, in fact, been suspended indefinitely, but only removed from the roster for tonight’s game, and that Andy Reid wanted to keep his options open, or something to that effect.

It was only on the screen for a short while, and now i can’t find anything online about it on the internet. Did anyone else see this?

Yeah, I saw the same thing on the Raiders-Chiefs game (and as a Baltimore native, “fucking useless Ravens” indeed). I think they’re using the word “indefinitely” to mean “for at least this game, and possibly longer, but we really haven’t decided.” It looked like the Eagles had finally grown some balls to deal with the situation; now they appear to be backpedalling.

Through this whole situation, Owens has done nothing but show up his teammates, his coaches, and his organization, and they’ve let him get away with it. A one game suspension now won’t improve things any more than his week off during training camp did. If he takes the field again in an Eagles uniform, Andy Reid might as well wear a dress on the sideline.

FWIW, according to the Eagles’ website, it’s a suspension. I’m in Philly and I haven’t heard anything different yet.

They can only suspend him for four games for conduct detrimental. Since they don’t have a replacement for him, they can just deactivate him without it being an official suspension, and it will work the same way. He won’t be back; it’s just a matter of how they’re going to classify it with the league.

That and the money. While he’s suspended for conduct detrimental, he’s not paid; if he’s inactive but not suspended, the team has to pay him.

Man, I sure wish they were talking about this during the game tonight! :rolleyes:

This must be only the third or fourth time in my life I’ve been cheering for the Eagles (sorry 'Skins fans). I’m hopin McNabb hits 4 different receivers for 12 TDs just to show up Owens.
And I realized today that for my sin of trying to find good in TO playing in GB, the Packers will win just enough games to fall far enough in the draft to take some lineman that will end up being a bigger bust (heh) than Mandarich.

Son, I say, son, that’s what we call a bad joke, son.

Freddie Mitchell. Please do not even get me started.

Nope. Every source I’ve read says that he convinced them he’d changed, that the problem was just in SF, and so on. They were cautious, but they did not expect this, else they wouldn’t have signed him.

I thought so too, at first, but many reporters – Peter King and Phil Sheridan among them – have said that had he behaved and played well this year the team had every intention of picking up his option. If you have a source that says the team planned to cut him after 2 years right from the start, I’d like to see it.

Hot soft BULLSHIT. As has been explained innumerable times, when you average in the various bonuses, his contract is right in line with the other top WRs. His salary was only low if you accept Rosenhaus logic and measure this year’s salary alone – as if he didn’t just get a huge signing bonus a year ago. Over the total life of the contract, he was set to be one of the best paid players at his position.

If you want to argue that he needs to be paid #1 every single year so that he doesn’t feel “dissed,” or that he needs to be paid like a QB, knock yourself out. But the idea that he has been nickel-and-dimed is bullshit.

Shit. Tom Fucking Brady won’t make 8 million this year.

No, actually they’re not anymore. Didja notice they resigned Westbrook? Do you know why that’s possible? Did you know that every year, they resign guys in-season and apply those bonuses immediately? Almost nobody else does this – because they can’t. They’re already at the cap limit, and can only sign guys long term in the offseason … which means their bonuses will count against* next * season’s cap, and the cycle repeats.

**The Eagles spend about as much on their current players as most other teams. ** Read that sentance again to process it. The only reason they are so far under the cap is because they have almost no “dead money” – they have not,like most other teams – signed players and later released them, leaving their contracts on the books.

Now I will allow that most teams take the route of “this guy is great gotta have him gotta have him pay anything pay anything.” Most teams would have resigned Simon. I would have too. But most teams would have also paid Trotter more than he was worth. Most teams wouyld have tried for Peerless Price back when he was the “it” girl and they needed a WR. Most teams would have resigned Duce and been paying his injured ass now.

But the Eagles aren’t most teams, and refusing to pay people more than they’re worth has been a part of what has made them a contender to start with. Oh, and there is one other team that stays well under the cap and avoids dead money like the plague …

Yes, that’s it. A backup WR was the key to thier whole gameplan.

Heh, me too. Then I started hoping they would take McNabb out of the game before he gets hurt worse than he is already. Eagles, the season is over…time to make sure you have a QB for next year.

Roy Williams is a class act on the field, to his teammates in the locker room and most notable in the community where he does a lot of volunteer work.

Course, if you want to call one of the more respected players in the NFL a “bitch” for knocking your whiny, divisive, selfish player, who’s actions you’re doing a lousy job of justifying, out for part of the season then go ahead. The Pats beat T.O. and the Eagles despite his good performance in the game. Even at 100% your precious, myopically viewed Eagle still lose.

With comments like these, Jimmy, it’s apparent that you don’t wish to be taken very seriously.

Oh, my.

So now I guess we’ll find out just how good they are without him.

Reid just shitcanned T.O. for the season, saying he won’t be back.