I looks like there was no thread for eps 2 or 3, so I thought I’d start a general season 2 thread since individual eps aren’t earning their own threads.
I was iffy about episode 2. Too many overly contrived setups for scenes.
I liked ep 3 though. I’m really glad Charlie didn’t disappear with his wife after ep 1. I like the actor, and he did a great job this last ep. It broke my heart when he had to hold the phone away so John wouldn’t hear him crying.
I feel a little guilty for being secretly glad his wife died. She pissed me off last ep when she slapped Charlie. For what? “Oh, sorry honey. I was holding off telling you my ex and her son traveled forward in time with a robot to escape some killer robots chasing them from the future when they’ve destroyed civilization. Excuuuuse me.” Plus, now he’s really angry and free to join the team (crosses fingers). Don’t know if he will. John needs a healthy father figure and Charlie is much better than psycho uncle.
Cameron is being a little silly. “The house is sinking.” “There’s a bird, I’ll kill it before it gets away.” It’s mildly humorous but I think they’re overdoing her naivete a teensy bit.
The pregnant girl is funny. Anyone remember her from Freaks and Geeks?
I just caught the third episode and I’m thinking, “how come John Connor is still acting the stupid, whiney douche?” He ditches his bodyguard, walks into a trap that not even a five year old would fall for (what ever happened to “that code won’t work”), and goes to the pier without so much as a text message to Cameron.
I missed the first two episodes and last I saw, Cameron got all blowed up at the end of last season. How’d she get put back together?
Oh, they glossed over that a little. Basically, she didn’t get all that blowed up, just singed around the edges a bit. Her hair was barely mussed. And her body heals fast. The explosion did, however, knock her processor out of whack and she temporarily reverted to her “terminate John” program, but John got the chip out of her, wiped it off, put it back in and the “protect John” program is working again.
This last episode featured some incredibly lazy writing. Did they forgot that Charlie is an EMT? “She’s bleeding, I don’t know how badly, could be an artery, she could be bleeding out!” Um, no. It’s kind of obvious when it’s an artery, what with the spurting and all. You might try lifting her shirt and actually looking at the wound, Mr. Paramedic. He repeatedly shows that he knows nothing of emergency medicine, unlike a few episodes ago, when he saves Creepy Uncle’s life.
It also made no sense that John was able to evade Cameron to go hang with Riley. She’s a Terminator, for god’s sake. What happened to the stalker that you simply cannot escape from? How could he possibly elude her so easily, and yet be such a klutz when it comes to escaping from Cromartie later. Dude, try walking calmly instead of sprinting at a mad dash.
Yeah, valid points. I’ve resigned myself to the fact this show’s writing is never going to be what most of us call “tight.”
Everyone laughed last season when Sarah was baking John a cake but had to go in the other room. John was sitting at the kitchen table four feet away from the stove when the timer when off and the cake started burning and all he was capable of was sitting there yelling “moooooom!” This is the guy who’s spent most of his life learning to be a survivalist?
I also thought it was funny when Charlie and his wife were in the back of the truck and Charlie said “she’s bleeding out! You have to stop! The bumps are making it worse!” So what does Sarah do? Slam the brakes so hard I’m surprised Charlie and his wife didn’t end up in the front seat.
That’s what I think is so interesting about the show. The originial Terminators were able to be dispatched by humans with enough firepower and their tracking skills depended completely on other people because Skynet knows nothing about the present.
But now Sarah Connor and her gang know all the tricks. They know about the voice thing. They know Terminators can’t communicate wirelessly. They know only Cromartie knows what John looks like.
So Cromartie made an attempt to reconnect with someone who would lead him to John. He followed Ellison to Charlie and used him to track down Sarah. He didn’t attack Sarah and Derek because he didn’t know what firepower they had. And after John lost him at the pier, John may as well be on the moon because Cromartie doesn’t know anything else about him.
– standing there like a deer in headlights during the reactor meltdown… “What are you doing?” “Trying to figure out how to fix this.” She’s never hesitated before.
– the bit with the bird.
– the house is sinking.
– looking like she is going to dismember Riley.
She’s damaged goods. That the Terminate John program was overridden still leaves room for a whole bunch of other programs to be active, like Be a Psycho Killer Robot: anything that threatens John is now a lethal threat, including John himself, which is causing more than a few logic-bomb issues inside her pert little head.
I just want to know how many more times we’re going to see the plot circle of “it’s too dangerous to go out, John” “I have to live my own life, mom” “hey, look, killer robots!” “Guess it’s too dangerous to go out, John…”
I mean, for real. Can John go even a single day without compromising security? Apparently not, since he gave his cell phone number to the first pretty girl he met. And where they hell do they get off renting a freaking mansion? That’s just so irresponsible… they didn’t even make it through the first day without somebody crashing through a french door. I hope they don’t have a security deposit, because you know that place is going to be spread across three counties by the time they’re done with it. Only, not in a way to hurt the pregnant lady next door.
Oh, yeah… Epic kudos for casting Shirley as a terminator.
The death of the blonde woman is simply too convenient a reason for Ryan O’Riley to join the cause, rather like how the deaths of Owen and Beru clear the way for Luke to follow the Force.
Cameron’s physical damage was somewhat more extensive in the cliffhanger; recall how John could easily outrun her because she was limping. I’ve gotten used to insta-heals, though, from her and the human characters, which kinda makes blondie’s death even more unusual. Heck, Sarah routinely goes through stuff ten times worse and a few days later doesn’t even have bruises.
I was a little confused about how they made a point of announcing that the real Cromartie’s cheesy Beastmaster-ish flick (the clips of which I thought were entertaining) had become a bestseller, yet Cromartie-droid can walk around casually without even trying to disguise his appearance with a hat or sunglasses and not have anyone recognize him. For that matter, the elaborate plan gets undone by the convenient coincidence of John spotting Cromartie before Cromartie can spot John.
That Terminators can’t swim was the only part of this episode that made sense, actually.
I figure he’s just starting on a midlife crisis (with all that that implies).
'nother thing I noticed, from S2 episode two: either, as of then, they had failed to stop Skynet from being built with their current course of actions, or they have/will have stopped it, and one of those “stable time loops” has formed, and in the future John has access to a time machine, and loyal assistants with vague chest wounds willing to get barcode tattoos and make a trip through time. (Maybe he took out a classified ad)
Oh, and Cromartie obviously wasn’t in a “Beastmaster”-type film…he was in a Conan-type film. ::rimshot::
I think the idea was that he took a bullet just as he was about to make his time jump. That COULD mean that he was shot because the Good Guys were in the process of losing their time machine. Or he was that target of an assassin droid and got shot on his way through because they really, REALLY didn’t want him to deliver his message.
We’ve also seen what was probably some sort of brainwashing going on (what happened in that basement?),so that guy might even have been sent by Skynet.
They tried once. Ten naked well-muscled men clustered into a tight sphere. They landed in Greenwich Village, NY on June 28, 1969. The police response aggravated the situation.
Could have to do with mass. It’s possible that one Terminator (with combat chassis) weighs as much as 4 men. Remember, before Derek’s squad, we never saw more than one person being sent back.
I have to wonder why they keep on bothering to arm themselves with pistols and rifles when they’re up against a Terminator. What’s the point? They know at this point that they won’t do anything except maybe make it harder for the Terminator to blend into society. With Cameron’s capabilities and the others’ knowledge, can’t they get their hands on some heavy weapons? They could rob an armored car, go to another country and buy some RPG’s, or maybe an antitank missile if they’re lucky.
RPGs are (probably) harder to use than conventional firearms, and certainly heavier and more awkward to handle. They’re non-concealable single-shot weapons that don’t skimp on the collateral damage, and there is no place that one can legally carry the things. A woman with a handgun in her purse won’t raise any eyebrows; a woman lugging an RPG most assuredly will.
John and Sarah Connor have excellent reasons for preferring smaller arms - especially since we have seen they can inflict damage on Terminators. Not a lot, but they buy time, and that’s valuable.
The whole point is for them to be inconspicuous. Driving around in an armored car and traveling to another country to buy RPGs and antitank missiles is anything but.
Besides, they do have more than just handguns and rifles. In the last episode, Derek (Brian Austin Green) was seen carrying a grenade launcher. Much like the one Arnold was using in T2 while inside the Cyberdine building and in the metal plant.
