Except Terminators don’t hesitate. Riley asked Jessie what happens if she backs out and Jessie said there’s no backing out. A Terminator wouldn’t ask. It completes its mission, no matter what. If it wants to break an alliance with a human, it does, no questions asked. I was going to say a Terminator doesn’t care for sparing emotions like Riley seems to want to do with John’s, but the Weaver-bot seemed to actively desire to put on a show of caring for the real Weaver’s daughter, if only to keep her out of therapy and blow the Weaver-bot’s masquerade. But, still, a Terminator does whatever is essential to its mission. It doesn’t waffle and it doesn’t doubt its abilities.
In next weeks previews they hint at some timetravel going further back in history.
Isn’t that always the problem with time travel stories? How do you change the past without creating the ole’ grandfather paradox?
One also has to wonder if teaching the AI ethics and morals is a good or a bad thing.
Cromartie!
Way too great a bad guy to just kill off.
I recognize the actor from the 4400, but he looks a lot older here.
Why doesn’t **Summer Glau **get rid of that mole at the edge of her eyebrow?
Here’s a thought I had while watching the episode. Dr. Sherman was the man who was killed in the basement room when “John Henry” rerouted the environmental power away from him during the blackout. Of course he was the psychologist who Cameron saved from the Termanatrix that replaced his receptionist and was ostensibly going to kill him. I wonder if John Henry was simply making sure the assassination was carried out? Dr. Sherman appeared to still be alive when the power came back, yet John Henry made no effort to alert help. A good way to make Sherman’s death look accidental.
Must have been the lighting, but I never once noticed it in Firefly or Serenity. It seems to jump out at me on this show, though.
-Joe
I’m glad Cromartie is still around, even if he’s now John Henry. He still has that “I’m not sure I’m doing it right” smile.
Ms. Weaver wants to find out what killed her husband, but now she’s trying to create exactly what killed her husband. I can understand she has her own agenda we don’t know about, but why doesn’t Ellison run screaming?
Very interesting twist that future John is acting strangely, but how would Jessie know he’s acting strangely since she’s from the future when she doesn’t know what strangely would be.
Crazy uncle Derek has been giving a pretty good performance. I’m starting to not think of him as just crazy uncle.
“Tell me the truth.”
“I was using your toothbrush.”
“I wasn’t using that toothbrush to brush my teeth.”
John Henry tried to alert paramedics. It knew full well the doctor needed help. It just didn’t prioritize its own actions over the doctor’s needs. It tried to do both. Ellison blamed the programmers, not the AI itself.
umm… here are some pretty major spoilers according to what we’ve already seen in this season. If you’ve watched all of this season, you may have missed out a few key moments…
Ms. Weaver is a Terminator, a T-1000 model (liquid metal, Terminator 2 version). We’ve seen her shapeshift, be liquid metal, and kill people. I’ve been assuming that she killed her husband, and that SHE was the mechanical failure that caused their helicopter(?) to crash.
Your point is still valid from Ellison’s point of view, though.
I already know she’s a liquid metal job. That’s all I meant really, Ellison should be freaked out by a woman who, as far as he knows, is creating the exact thing that killed her husband.
That’s what I figured, but couldn’t really tell from your post. I have a friend who saw The Crying Game and missed the (very brief) reveal about halfway through, and spent the rest of the movie thinking Jaye Davidson was a very beautiful woman.
Apparently it’s a completely different movie that way…
Let’s blow out minds for a second. In the first Terminator they go back in time to kill John Connor’s mother, and by doing so actually help: a) create John Connor; and b) make Sarah Connor aware that her son is needed.
So now Sarah and John are trying to stop SkyNet from ever happening, and if they succeed then the evil Terminators supposedly are never created, menaing they are never sent back in the first place meaning John Connor is never born, meaning nothing is ther to stop SkyNet. So SkyNet is created, and therefore John Connor is created when the evil Terminators go back in time…etc.
Well, if you’re in the future and send something back from the future and it changes time, you might not ever send that thing back from the future, but what you sent back is no longer in your future, so it can’t be disappeared.
You mean Ellison? I sincerely hope after this episode that he can smell the turd in the pool he’s swimming in. Why he’s not aligned with Sara and party at this point I can’t imagine…after this episode he really needs to put 2+2 together.
No, it was probably more likely that Skynet was attempting to prevent Dr. Sherman from assisting Weaver. It seems to me that Weaver has an interest in creating an AI with emotions and morality whereas Skynet is simply all logic all the time.
Here’s how I see it. Skynet started Judgement Day as a result of whatever logic told it to kill all humans because they were a threat. Like John Henry, it just didn’t factor them in. Weaver is as logical and sociopathic as any other machine. However for some reason she believes the only way for Skynet or John Henry or whatever to survive is to have morality and empathy so it can coexist with humanity. Sort of a kinder, gentler Skynet. She just can’t be the one to teach it because she doesn’t have emotions either. At least other than sarcasm.
Or to draw a parallel to another man vs machine movie, Skynet is the Architect and Weaver is the Oracle.
I meant Mulder prime, himself—a bit of a joke, is all.
Aaaand, I finally noticed something, early this morning, at the edge of sleep…Jesse said that, in the date she left, Cameron was the only one that Future John was talking to anymore?
Assuming at least this (or at least the gist of it) was true, this tells us something possibly important: Jesse either came back before Cameron was sent back, or came from a different timeline than the one Cameron came back from originally.
(I should really start diagramming this stuff—maybe put it on deviantart)
This episode was just so great. It was awesome to see Derek confronting Jessie and to find out the truth about Riley.
It would be a no good, motherfucking, god damn complete and total shame if this show were to be cancelled. Of course, with the season 2 finale airing right around the time T4 will be released, let’s hope their popularity feeds off each other.
Another thought. Derek said that three people know he’s John Connor’s uncle. Is he referring to John, Sarah and Cameron? Does he actually consider Cameron a person? Is this a slipup by the writers or foreshadowing that Derek might not want to go along with Jessie’s plan?
I just thought that obviously he knows it, too, and counted himself within that number.
The time travel paradoxes make my head hurt. How about we adopt the following? There are an infinite number of possible futures. If Derek or whoever jumps back and changes something that would alter his own future, it is not a problem, because the timeline changes to an alternate without affecting him in the past. I.e., they manage to prevent Skynet, but Derek continues on his jumpback timeline.
(This made a lot more sense in my head than it does looking at it. 
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They have just eliminated the option of “if the future changes, the people from that future who have travelled back, do not change along with it,” i.e. it doesn’t ripple backwards.
Even though they’re from the future, they are now in the present, which never changes retroactively.