The Amazing Race 4/15 - "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War"

I think Danny & Oswald would recommend that you go shopping, and then go to the airport in a Mercedes. Where you go from there is entirely up to you. The world is waiting … travel safe … go! :smiley:

They can’t? I don’t remember that rule.

Yes, the Yield can only be used once per team per Race. However, a team may be Yielded more than once.

Rockle is so right.

And, the fabulousness of the two is going to get them to the finish.

Now the questions I’ve got are these:

Do you think that the organizers developed a task where Myrna couldn’t see Charla so that they could find out if she was a shrill banshee?

They did. As Charla worked her way up the stairs of the Old Police Building, Myrna couldn’t help herself. She yelled and screamed, despite not seeing he cousin.

I’m a bit dissapointed in the lack of Europe. The gang was quickly in Poland where we saw the least of the competitors.

I’m happy we saw lots of South America and Africa, which are hard places to travel well. They’re deserved of extra recognition, especially on a game that is geared to All-Stars.

But we missed out on the grope-fest that is usually the Subcontinent. This late in the race they went from Poland to Malasia, which is close to Singapore. There they cane you for vandalism. Many of the producers’ “tasks” verge on crime anyway. And the fondling common to India, was avoided this time around. Maybe we’ll see the first all-female team to win the Race.

For the record, I’ve got to say that I liked Charla and Myrna this week. They seemed to have fun with the Detour. I liked that they tossed change into the harbor. Still, I hate Myrna.

Go boys!

Indeed. I would think Eric & Danielle would be prime candidates to be Yielded, because they’re already behind by an extra half-hour, and a Yield might take them out of the race completely.

On the other hand, after a little thought, I believe Eric & Danielle would be really, really stupid not to Yield someone else if they have any opportunity at all to do so. I would be very interested to hear Danielle’s reasoning here, one way or another.

Why? You know it’ll just be hypocritical bullsh*t. If they yielded the Beauty Queens, it’ll be ‘fair’ because they did it first. If they yielded anyone else it will because they are ‘forced’ into it by the game and thus not their fault.

I’m so sick of the moral posturing over the Yield. It’s not cheating, playing dirty, ignoble, low, whatever. It’s part of the game. You might as well complain about someone sending your ball off to wherever in croquet.

Get over it. It’s PART OF THE GAME.

I don’t understand why those things are called “clues”. If something said, “Travel to the city that’s headquarters for America’s largest bank,” that would be a clue. But if it says, “Travel to Charlotte” it’s just an instruction.

I think I’ve heard that in the first few seasons, the clues would be somewhat vague. I’m sure someone who has all the seasons on DVD will be by in a few minutes to confirm or deny this. (BTW, if I had the clue that you gave as an example, I’d wind up in Wilmington, DE, and wonder where everybody else was. Hopefully, my teammate would stop me long enough to research the correct destination.)

While I added my BTW comment, I remembered that in the last two seasons they tried one clue per season. In TAR 9, the instruction to go to Kuwait City said “Find the building in this photo.” In TAR 10, the instruction was “Go to the city where such-and-such happened.” (I don’t feel like looking up the details, but I think the answer was Kiev, Ukraine.)

I’d like to see the route instructions generally be less specific on how to get to the next clue. This episode is a good case – I would have preferred the instruction “Go to the old police station on Hong Kong Island” without the producer-added condition “travelling by Star Ferry to the island.” This lets people decide for themselves: The ferry is cheaper (maybe), but a taxi is quicker (maybe). Which is the better choice for us at this moment?

There was a clue on TAR1 that included a small flag and a photograph, and was just “go to the country with this flag and find this man”

Oooo…I had forgotten about that one aktep…I was thinking about the first one that was something like “Go to the place that thunders”…I think the first season was one of the only ones that actually had clues…since then they’ve been more like directions…although every now and then they throw us a clue bone. I didn’t see the episode, but from what I understand this season the had one that was sort of a ‘figure it out’ sort of roadblock.

I thought the other one on this race was kinda lame too. The ones I remember from other seasons were drinking blood, shaving your head bald…

Ben, it was “Fly to the capital of the country that contains Chernobyl.” I remember this because I was really, really hoping at least one of the teams would end up in Moscow…

I already deleted it from my DVR, but in Eric’s little interview at the end did he actually say something to the effect of “Yeah, so maybe Danielle was right, I should have gotten directions. But I don’t blame her, it’s not her fault…”

???

I’m a recent convert to TAR, so I missed the earlier seasons when the clues were a little more indirect. Did anything like that ever happen, a team get their facts mixed up and wind up the wrong hemisphere or something?

I remember Eric saying something much like that. I’m thinking that if Eric was any more of a tool, he should be wearing a Craftsman label.

I think that really hurts TAR. There’s too much luck in it.

Which ‘that’ are you referring to?

Oops, sorry. That didn’t line up very well, did it. :o

It’s the whole thing about moving from one instruction to another without having to actually figure anything out. If it’s a race, make it a race. Let people know what the course is and turn them loose on it. But this business of just reading a card that says “Go to Peoria and find Joe’s Coffee Shop” only to go there and find a card that says “Okay, now go to Dallas and find Texas Stadium”. And in between, there are little tasks, few of which require any mental skill. Even in the Detour split-tasks, it’s usually toting the heaviest barge versus finding a needle in a haystack. And then there’s the bunching up at choke points, where people who got there hours before someone else lose all the advantage they’ve earned.

And so, who finishes a leg before whom often boils down to sheer luck — flights getting delayed, dumbass cab drivers, cars breaking down, traffic jams, bad weather, etc. I understand that luck can always be a factor in any game (even chess can be affected by luck), but TAR has eliminated so much of the clue-ness of clues that practically all the strategy centers around how best to hurry. And even that fails if some lucky person happens to find the cookie with the pecan in it by picking it randomly out of a stack of two thousand cookies.

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I’d just like to see more actual challenge to it.

Me, too. Even when we here speak about who has “raced smarter” than other teams, a lot of it comes down to either who has had good airport strategy or who has avoided the detours that are the biggest time suck.

or just plain luck. I think U&J got eliminated because they missed that tight connections…but C&M got way ahead becaused they happened to make a tight connection…so it can really go either way.

Although I think Liberal has a good idea. Turn teams loose at one point, tell them they have to go around the world…give them a list of countries/cities that they have to visit…maybe have a stamp or something they have to get there. Then for fun, eliminate air travel as a means of getting there. You can take any other available transportation option, but not anything that goes in the air. Now that could be interesting.