The lesson they learned is that they did not cheat hard enough.
Yes and No. Yes, one party has made it clear that they’re about done with pretending to be democratic, but there’s strong opposition.
The problem is, we need more softer conservatives and centrists to recognize the danger and realize that we don’t live in a competitive two-party democracy anymore. We live in a two party system in which an illiberal party is challenging the liberal party, but not by trying to win democratically; rather, they’re competing purely for power itself and for control of the mechanisms by which power is gained and maintained.
Moderate conservatives and centrists must swallow whatever it is they typically misgive about liberals and join them in opposing the illiberal forces - they cannot simply remain independent out of fidelity to their philosophical roots.
So what happens when half the population blatantly and brazenly chooses their own reality, and they all have made tacit agreements with each other to believe anything they say, no matter how obviously and ridiculously wrong.
I would like to see this start by the cessation of Democratic party infighting. Some unity from his own party would do Joe a world of good. Jumping on his face because he’s not left enough (or too left) or not fast enough or not demanding enough, too soft, too hard, to centrist, too extreme … just get behind him already! Splintering the party will give the Republicans exactly what they want.
And that’s what I don’t get with the likes of Manchin and Sinema. These IMHO are existential challenges and not the time for subtle nuances.
A CNN reporter was interviewing an insurrectionist, and asked him about the deaths 1/6, and the guy said he doesn’t believe Officer Sicknick is really dead.
Well he BETTER damn well believe that Ashli Babbitt is dead. How else can the MAGAts make a martyr of her, and they have lately been doing?
I don’t know about Sinema, but Manchin is a Democrat trying to stay alive in West Virginia, a state that switched from overwhelmingly Democratic to pretty much completely Republican in just a few years.
Ah ok. Though I’ve learned a huge amount about US politics (I’m in the great white north), I hadn’t considered that. Interesting but still alarming.
I was a life-long Libertarian, active in the party, not just a member or registrant, yet I decided that the choice was clear in 2020 and voted for Biden – for the country and it’s traditions, not for my party’s political goals.
I am now registered as independent which in Arizona means I can request any party’s ballot in the primary. I might participate in the Republican party’s primary in a likely futile attempt to draw them back from the brink but I can’t imagine voting ever again for a Republican candidate in a general election. The party is beyond contempt.
So is Sherrod Brown in Ohio.
Don’t see him playing these games.
West Virginia’s redder than Ohio.
I’m no medical examiner, but to borrow a Republian phrase: “I saw it on Tee-Vee!” and I’ll state that she’s really most sincerely dead.
I was wondering about that myself.
I can understand claiming that Sicknick’s death was faked. That would reduce the rioters’ malfeasance.
But Babbitt was is one of theirs. If she’s still alive, the government is slightly less evil than if she were dead.
It sometimes seems as if the most important thing for conspiracy nuts is to accuse the government of lying, even if it reduces the sum total of their martyrdom.
She’s both alive and dead, as well as both a patriot and antifa.
So she is Schrödinger’s Martyr. That is so Q.
Q is so confused about how Individual 1 is going to be touring with O’Reilley in December, if he’s going to be President then.
Waitaminute! It took at least one step of logic to come to that conclusion, how in the hell did “Q” manage that??
Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Donald never showed any reluctance to make money off the Presidency before, so why would he suddenly decline to accept the revenues from a $7500-per-ticket tour?
Similarly: Donald never put in much time a-Presidentin’ before, so why would he be bothered now by the time spent away from the Oval Office that a tour would require?
ETA: Ticketmaster shows “$7500 +” as the top price for the most Donald-y and Most Bill-y seats…keep your eyes on that plus!
https://www.ticketmaster.com/the-history-tour-president-donald-j-sunrise-florida-12-11-2021/event/0D005AC4E555D84D
Waitaminute is right. Trump spent 4 years holding rallies while pretending to be president. So what if he gets pretend re-inaugurated in August? He can still spent the rest of his pretend term holding rallies. I don’t get what Q is on about here.