gigi
February 3, 2017, 11:27pm
101
At least it was green. The environment is very important – think of the grandchildren!
Never Again, And Never In The Fist Place!
I thought you were into fisting.
SteveG1
February 3, 2017, 11:59pm
105
Bricker:
When the Obama administration did something, I might agree or disagree (more disagree, in truth) with the action and the goal, but I always believed that the decisions were made in furtherance of a goal and rationally related to that goal.
I don’t know if the current administration will continue the tactic. The current administration’s underlying framework of goals is. . . opaque to me. So far as I can determine, Trump is consulting a Magic 8-Ball. “Signs hazy - ask again later.”
True. Even if you couldn’t stand him and / or what he did, you at least could believe there was some thought, some kind of a reason behind it. Not THIS guy.
SteveG1
February 4, 2017, 12:03am
106
Yeah. That’s it, that’s the ticket.
SteveG1
February 4, 2017, 12:06am
109
I’m not going back. I got killed to death last time.
Monty
February 4, 2017, 12:15am
111
You’re saying you didn’t try to help because it was a rap?
I’d like to see someone ask her about the massacre every day with a straight face.
I get the impression that Trump and henchmen would like to see stuff like this buried forever:
In an 1867 speech in Boston, Frederick Douglass challenged most social observers and politicians (including most African Americans) by advocating the acceptance of Chinese immigration. His argument is presented below. As nations are among the largest...
Est. reading time: 39 minutes
There are such things in the world as human rights. They rest upon no conventional foundation, but are external, universal, and indestructible. Among these, is the right of locomotion; the right of migration; the right which belongs to no particular race, but belongs alike to all and to all alike. It is the right you assert by staying here, and your fathers asserted by coming here. It is this great right that I assert for the Chinese and Japanese, and for all other varieties of men equally with yourselves, now and forever. I know of no rights of race superior to the rights of humanity, and when there is a supposed conflict between human and national rights, it is safe to go to the side of humanity.
I have great respect for the blue eyed and light haired races of America. They are a mighty people. In any struggle for the good things of this world they need have no fear. They have no need to doubt that they will get their full share. But I reject the arrogant and scornful theory by which they would limit migratory rights, or any other essential human rights to themselves, and which would make them the owners of this great continent to the exclusion of all other races of men.
I want a home here not only for the negro, the mulatto and the Latin races; but I want the Asiatic to find a home here in the United States, and feel at home here, both for his sake and for ours. Right wrongs no man. If respect is had to majorities, the fact that only one fifth of the population of the globe is white, the other four fifths are colored, ought to have some weight and influence in disposing of this and similar questions. It would be a sad reflection upon the laws of nature and upon the idea of justice, to say nothing of a common Creator, if four fifths of mankind were deprived of the rights of migration to make room for the one fifth.
If the white race may exclude all other races from this continent, it may rightfully do the same in respect to all other lands, islands, capes and continents, and thus have all the world to itself. Thus what would seem to belong to the whole, would become the property only of a part. So much for what is right, now let us see what is wise. And here I hold that a liberal and brotherly welcome to all who are likely to come to the United states, is the only wise policy which this nation can adopt.
The one aspect of the Conway “alternative fact” that has been only mentioned obliquely in this thread was her intended point.
She was trying to claim that the news media refused to publish the information about the incident when Obama “did the same thing” as Trump, banning Iraqi refugees for months.
She is lying, (again), of course.
Obama did not “ban” anyone. When the Bowling Green arrests were made, the entry of the pair was regarded as a hole in the then current vetting process. Obama ordered a tighter vetting process, (making Trump’s claims about “tightening” the vetting process just campaign lies), and then ordered everyone who had been admitted under the old rules to be re-evaluated under the new rules. The time it took to examine the existing entry visas created a backlog to granting new visas, (a backlog that took about nine months to free up), but Obama never issued a ban of Iraqis–which is the current talking point of the Trumpist propaganda machine.
If Conway had not overstepped her script and invented a massacre, her primary lie might have passed with less reaction.
There’s a Wikipedia page:
The Bowling Green massacre is a fictitious incident of Islamic terrorism mentioned by Kellyanne Conway, then–Counselor to the President of Donald Trump, in interviews with Cosmopolitan and TMZ on January 29, 2017, and in an interview on the MSNBC news program Hardball with Chris Matthews on February 2, 2017. Conway cited it as justification for a travel and immigration ban from seven Muslim-majority countries enacted by United States President Donald Trump. However, no such massacre occurred. T...
Nah. She already walked back the “massacre” claim (but not the lie about Obama banning Iraqis) as a “mistake” when the blatant lie was exposed.
They wouldn’t let go of the reporter who made a mistake about the MLK bust.
When a Time magazine reporter made a mistake on President Trump’s first day in office, the reporter apologized within half an hour.
The Trump team hammered him for it.
Twelve days after the error , Trump himself was still talking about it, citing it as “fake news” and saying it was “a disgrace, but that’s the way the press is.”
The main reason it won’t work is because of the total lack of shame in the White House.
Just hitting the Country/Western charts, The Massacre of Bowling Green by Toby Queef
Massacre, manicure; whatever it takes.