I shouldn’t have to ask for a link, but…
I don’t have a version as i was not there, but I’m certainly not willing to execute anyone without knowing both sides.
Maybe these ranchers are wrong who knows right now? Certainly not this place from what I’ve read. It’s sad when so many folks are willing to just go along with the popular opinion before there has been any trial, and then revert to name calling or demeaning comment when someone like me comes along that questions the flock.
later y’all
What a fucking lazy response. Cry conspiracy without offering one fucking iota of evidence or even your own preferred version. I am perfectly willing to listen to any alternative you have to present, but you can’t even do that much. Bye Felicia!
There was a video. Did you watch it? It was not very ambiguous.
Local newspapers are about the only “mainstream media” I’ve read on the matter. And court documents and militia social media where they are clearly advocating illegal activities.
Because they don’t believe in America. They claim to be patriots fighting tyranny, but the “tyranny” they claim to experience is just normal effects of their blatant law breaking. They have no regards for the law or the people.
They claim to love the Constitution, but not the real Constitution, they love their edited version that gives them the right to do whatever they want.
They are dangerous. They live by the gun and believe themselves above the law.
They are hypocrites. A huge percentage of militia members have no real job and many live off of government checks.
They are a negative force. Positive forces build, negative forces tear down.
They are users and bullies. If you start looking around at these people’s activities, you’ll see that they constantly threaten and intimidate people. You’ll see many of them are friends with white supremacists, many of them are career criminals and all of them blame the government for their problems when it’s clear to everyone else that the only people to blame are themselves.
Speaking of white supremacists, all this ideology the militias believe was first made up by white supremacists in the 60s-80s. Citizen grand juries, constitutional sheriffs, the belief in “common law” and “constitutional law” were all made up by the group Posse Comitatus.
It takes a huge disregard for the facts to believe this. Finicum is on video reaching for something in his pocket when he was shot. The FBI says they recovered a 9mm pistol from that pocket. While we don’t have proof yet, I doubt they’d make that up. Regardless, as police were trying to arrest him for breaking numerous laws, instead of putting his hands up, he started reaching for something. Anyone who isn’t brain dead knows this is suicide. If the cops have you at gunpoint telling you to put your hands up and you scratch your nuts, you’re probably getting shot.
The proposed uranium mine of a few years ago was very small and was going to be 5 hours away from MNWR. The desert tortoise is in Nevada, not Oregon, and relates to the Cliven Bundy case.
The problem is methodology. People absolutely should protect their interest. The can file lawsuits, call their senator or representative, call the newspapers to tell their story, organize protests. They can try to change the law. They cannot brandish weapons and threaten law enforcement. They cannot follow innocent people and their families around town and call in death threats. They cannot claim other people’s property as their own through force.
You’re not waiting for facts, you’ve already made up your mind that he was murdered. While we don’t have all the proof yet, all the evidence so far points to a justified shooting and none points to a murder. Stop taking this away from Lavoy. He said over and over again he would die before being arrested. He got his wish, let him have it. Stop trying to turn it into a murder to fit your politics.
I don’t know who the “private contracted killers” are because Finicum was shot by an Oregon State Trooper. A local.
Their interest was that what the Bundys were doing was blatantly illegal. The Malheur Wildlife Refuge didn’t belong to the Bundy’s. They had no right to claim it as theirs and threaten to keep it by force. Period.
My guess is that people who think Finicum was murdered have no problems with the shooting of unarmed black teenagers, because well, they were certainly up to no good.
Did I cry conspiracy?
Did I not say that I am not supporting the Bundys and that they could be wrong?
It’s comical how fast and easily some of you melt.
It’s not in my nature to offer up a “version”
The process of critical thinking is very liberating…you should try it
Judge Gary Darby is a “constitutional judge.” This is, of course, a made up title. In this video, he calls Major Stephen Bomar, Director of Public Affairs of the Oregon National Guard to talk to them about French banking cartel (aka the IMF) mercenaries murdering Lavoy Finicum and asks if the national guard is going to defend Americans from these mercenaries. Bomar basically schools him on how the NG only serves the president or governor and he should get the info to them instead.
I don’t know what this is supposed to be evidence of.
No, that’s not how it works. If you are going to prima facie reject the existing explanation, you need to be able to articulate a reason. Not just “because”. Until you are capable of doing that, you’re just spouting nonsense.
You have not offered one single example of critical thinking on your part so far.
Stopped reading after
Bullshit.
Finicum was a private contractor. When the Bundyites in his car figured this out, he fled, but knowing the Obamas could not risk this going public, he gave a double secret signal to the officers by pretending to reach for his gun, which directed them to shoot him dead.
You are very liberated!
Apparently these shirts were for sale at the Tuscon rally today. Look closely.
You said you “know” a man has been “murdered”. So you have come to a conclusion you expect us to take a face value without offering any evidence. The Feds have released a video that shows quite clearly that Finicum intended to use a gun against law enforcement. What evidence do you have?
If I were a “her,” I’d be Elendil’s Heiress.
“I am Lavoy’s Finicum.”
Yeah, and I am Joe’s Pancreas.
Do we all have a Finicum or was LaVoy the only person with one? Where is the Finicum located?
I think there is an alimentary element involved. Like the old saying, Everyone has a cowboy hat and everyone has a finicum.
I think you mean “appear to shoot him dead”. He had fake blood concealed under his shirt and the officers fired to miss. Finicum is alive and well and living in Elendil’s Heir’s house. “Sock drawer” and “tidy” are euphemisms.