Why? On what basis is Oregon entitled to act? The entire issue is one of jurisdiction. If the State of Oregon takes action on Federal land, they are tacitly acknowledging that the Feds should not or do not have authority, which only serves the militants’ ideology.
Well, in context what **coremelt **is talking about is that the State of Oregon needs to act to control the sheriff that is trying to do the very same thing, going over his jurisdiction.
Stupidity is like water. It always finds a way 
Is it really true that state governments cannot enforce State laws on Federal owned land within their own states? Genuinely asking as a non US observer. If so this seems truly Bizarre to me.
This is a laugh riot. And, this is the best spokesman I have seen for the Talibundies.
This video should be broadcast on every single nightly news station every single night until these goofs vacate the reserve under a hail of laughter.
. . . There’s got to be a way to talk Christie into accepting this challenge . . . There’s got to . . .
He’s out of breath just talking!
This is about manpower and financial resources … can’t really expect Sheriff Ward and a half-dozen deputies to form a parameter around a 300 sq. mile refuge. Oregon has laws allowing recall of county officials, including sheriff … so the peoples of Harney County could remove Sheriff Ward, but that probably won’t happen. The State of Oregon could charge him with a crime and I think that would get him suspended with pay, but he’s committed no crime and appears to be following prescribed Law Enforcement procedures established here in Oregon … we don’t go Waco on peoples … it’s who we are.
As mentioned above, the Oregon-Yellow-bellied-Cowards-of-a-Pathetic-Excuse-of-a-State-Legislature only meets a few months every other year … and almost universally all Federales Law is transcribed word-for-word into State Law.
This is Federales land … so I’m’a guessing this will be tried in Federales court … under Federales Law.
So what about the Oregon State Defense Force?
Suspended but they can be recalled into service. Seems to me that this sort of insurrection and sedition is exactly what they are supposed to be able to fight.
It is kind of weird, even for an American. It basically boils down to three types of ownership. Proprietary jurisdiction treats the land as if the federal government were the landowner. They don’t respond to normal crimes, but can still enforce federal regulations. Exclusive jurisdiction means the Federal government is solely and completely responsible for everything that happens on that land, and state police have no jurisdiction there. (For example, military bases are exclusive to Federal law enforcement.) The last type of ownership is called concurrent jurisdiction, in which the Federal government and state government share responsibility.
As to why, I really can’t say. I’ve had actual park rangers try to explain it to me, and I still don’t know why it ended up this way. Even this FLETC article on the topic doesn’t really cover how we got to this point. It suggests this is something that just kind of evolved over time.
Territorial Jurisdiction on Federal Property (MP3) | Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers
Weirdly enough, a Federal LEO in exclusive jurisdiction can enforce state laws but not the other way around.
Madmonk28, have you received a thank-you note from the Bundy’s for your bags of treats?
What about the Oregon Defense Force? … “[The] little-known agency that helps during disasters has been suspended, and now some Oregonians are worried the state will be less prepared to help its citizens in the case of a devastating event.”
Who pays to have these folks to fill sandbags and brew coffee 250 miles from nowhere? Or would you hand military equipment to untrained civilian volunteers and hope not too many innocents are killed?
Shocking how many posters here seem to WANT a massacre … you should be ashamed of yourselves …
Oddly, there appear to be no federal properties in neighboring Malheur county. The Malheur refuge is all inside Harney county, and Malheur National Forest is all in Grant county.
From the Washington Post:
You can’t ‘take back’ public lands. They already belong to all of us.
As usual with many things, follow the money:
I think what posters here actually want, is for the Talibundies to leave, and then be arrested. Seems simple enough.
Nobody actually WANTS armed criminals to be massacred. But then we don’t necessarily want them to get their way, and break their fellow criminals out of prison either.
We are not all so Dim as to be unaware of Little ALEC. Everything to push for, it is all horrorshow.
One longs to give Little ALEC a hearty kick to the yarbles and then let out some of the red red krovvy with one’s cutthroat britva, oh one does, my brothers.
Almost all of Malheur County is under BLM ownership … Map of Federales land in Western USA … Most of this BLM land (not Forest Service land) was made available for homesteading, with no takers (no water) … Oregon doesn’t want it, so the Federales have it … simple.
They will leave … and they will be arrested … then they will be tried in a Court of Law before their peers … then they will go to jail for a long time.
No one had to come get the Hammonds and drag them to prison … they were told to report and they did …
When… when… when… and when? Recent history suggests that you are wrong on all counts. I mean, I hope that you’re right, but the events of 2014 here in Nevada and the events of 2016 in Burns, Oregon so far all indicate otherwise.