The Donald Trump 2024 Campaign Thread (Primary Edition)

Then he wants the VP killed.

Again: Trump/Gabbard

This is already in the Stupid Republican Idea of the Day Thread, but this deserves to be here, too:

Reacting to the news that Twitter in the runup to the 2020 election removed tweets that featured pornographic photos of Hunter Biden, Trump declared that the entire election had been stolen from him and demanded to be returned to the presidency.

“So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”

This is not the first time Trump has called for his reinstatement as president, although this is the first time he has acknowledged that doing so would require the United States to shred its own Constitution on his behalf.

Wrong thread, there’s a whole other thread devoted to that.

But what’s he need her for? He has 'em lining up by the score with tears in their eyes begging him to grab 'em – just ask him.

According to AdWeek:

Carlson has more personal popularity than Hannity among active MAGA types, I believe, too. (The ratings discussed include a lot of older folks who never get out there and carry signs, as well as the more active ones who’d be such an asset to any Trump campaign.)

The National Review comes out with the most effective anti-Trump message of this campaign season:

Hummphhh. National Review. That’s a liberal lefty rag, probably run by socialists. They probably support Antifa.

/s

True :+1:.

However, Trump fatigue is a winning message against Mr Barron, and it’s one that even MAGA would understand.

“God, Jerry, I’m just tired of the man.”

“Roseanne, do you want to go back when the President was the loudest thing in politics? Lord knows I don’t.”

“Yeah, look, he had his shot in 16, lost in 20, and frankly, he hasn’t stopped whining since. I don’t want another 4 years of this, Desantis is a man who gets things done and, unlike Trump, he doesn’t complain at 3 in the morning. What’s up with that?”*

  • … or Pence or Perry or whoever doesn’t have a shot in hell of winning.

“Man, while I agree with the conservative platform, I just no longer agree with Trump.”

It’s non-confrontational and undoubtedly true, the best of both worlds. :slightly_smiling_face:

Fealty to Trump is the conservative platform.

One doesn’t have to accept that framing, and it will help diminish his power to have “Trump” be disassociated from “conservative”.

Regardless, in talking to people, “Trump fatigue” is a rather bipartisan, non-confrontational approach to saying “yeah, not this guy.”

If he is on the 2024 ballot as the R nominee, I will now confidently predict the number of ballots which are:

  1. Straight ticket R

AND

  1. Excepting the President, which is left blank

will smash records.

Trump fatigue is real, 3 straight Senate losses in Georgia for his favored candidates is a strong signal to this point.

I have no doubt Trump fatigue is a real thing in certain places that voted for him in 2016 and even 2020. MI, WI, PA are some of the obvious ones. However there are still plenty of places where that doesn’t seem to be a real thing. At least yet.

Ohio, Texas and Florida are some of the larger states where I don’t see Trump fatigue being a serious thing. There are plenty of less populous states, particularly in the Upper Midwest and the South where he appears to be nearly as popular as ever. How that plays out as we head toward 2024 is anybody’s guess.

Let’s see who he selects / endorses to run for senate in the red states where Democratic senators are running for re-election. The response to those picks will go a long way in telling us how Trump himself will do.

That’s a good little summary…but I still bristle at anyone who wasn’t “tired of this crap” by 1989* (if you’re a New Yorker), or by mid-2015 (if you live elsewhere in the US). Even if you’re a conservative.

*the Central Park Five fiasco

When (not if, but when) charges start getting filed one has to wonder how it will impact the conduct of his campaign. We should be able to game this all out ahead of time with a fair degree of confidence because Trump’s playbook is already well-known.

Is it possible the GOP will be hurt more if a trial date gets set closer to primaries and the party has less time to choose an anointed one?

If he gets indicted, he’ll break his contractually-imposed Twitter ban. His indictment will join the 2020 election as his two-issue platform. Who knows, an indictment may be enough to keep him from appearing on primary ballots as a Republican.

I still think it’s not beyond comprehension that he runs as a Libertarian. He can become the LeBron James of presidential candidates and go from party to party.

Except without the winning.

As to your question as to what would hurt the GOP the most, having him at the top of their ticket will hurt the GOP. The rest is a matter of degrees. :wink:

If Trump by some miracle failed to get the nod in the GOP primaries, how likely are we to see him run on the Bull Moose party ticket?

Teddy Roosevelt is rolling around in his grave at the mere thought :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

The Bull-something party ticket, anyway.