The Jedi are scubbed. The mere fact that they have the powers is no defense agains the fact that their powers aren’t all that great. They have a considerable edge against any normal human, but they’re not particular powerful and can die even from skilled unenhanced opponents.
Great. Now I am visioning ESB Yoda hanging on the back of Wolverine and hammering him with his walking stick - and Wolverine screaming to “Get this lousy muppet off of me”!
puts on his big rubber overalls and wades into it
Also, don’t forget the distinctive possibility that this could involve aerial or space-based combat.
Depending on the era, the Jedi might be flying their goofy Jedi Starfighters, the cool Jedi Interceptors, X-Wings, or any number of souped up ships if they’re more freelance sorts. The X-Men have the X-Jet. Very cool and very badass, yes, but also very much in it’s one-ness. Also, the Jedi could conceivably have the support of more mundane but well-trained soldiers (ie: Clone Troopers or New Republic forces) who will, if nothing else, provide support and draw fire for their Jedi leaders.
Also, we haven’t addressed why the X-Men and the Jedi are fighting (especially since this is a battle that seemingly unites the white hats and black hats of both sides against eachother). What could cause such an unusual occurance? Did George Lucas say an unkind thing about Stan Lee’s mother? Will Jay and Silent Bob somehow make a cameo appearance in all of this?
I notice that the Jedi lovers are forced to assume that every possible advantage that they could conceivably have goes their way.
I notice that X-men lovers are able to use a near-infinite amount of different mutants with a near-infinite range of powers. So I assume we get all of the Extended Universe, right?
How bout y’all pick 5 X-men and we pick 5 Jedi and then we talk about who wins?
By the way, I call SW Holiday Special Chewie!
X-Men, even with every possible Jedi advantage, to the power of infinity.
First rule of super hero team-ups: When two heros (or teams of heros) who have never met come together for the first time, they HAVE to fight. No explaining it, it just happens. :cool:
After the fight, they always realize tha ther is a greater comon threat and go short sheet Dr. Doom's bed or something.
To the main question:
Which team of X-men? The membership numbers run from about 6 to over a dozen. It can include members whom Jedi, no matter how powerful, would have no chance against (Juggernaut, Pheonix), or members whom my nephew could take out with a supersoaker (Dazzler).
Which group of Jedi? The numbers of the order run from one, to a few hundred, depending on the era. They can be ultra powerful (clone wars cartoons), reasonably powerfull but beatabe (most EU material), or ultra wimptastic (Revenge of the Sith, taken down by clonetroopers, or the arena in Attack of the Clones).
Play with the numbers or members, both groups have the potential to eat the others lunch.Eh, the Silver Surfer takes em both! cant beat the “power cosmic”!
sorry…im a surfer fan… 
Hey, Dazzler can levitate, create holograms, laser blasts, force fields, and hypnotic light beams. She’s honestly not as wimpy as you’d first think.
Jubilee, on the other hand…
Sheer numbers and the interference of multiple other force users. Yoda dispatched his assassins no problem. Plus, most Jedis are punks. I’m assuming we’re talking about the elites here.
I’m being nice here, and only using what we’ve seen in the movies (Clone Wars cartoon Windu crushes the X-Men and then moves on to the Avengers to get some cardio in) and only lighsabres and common force powers. If we can bring in other SW tech, or irregular Jedi tactics…
Death Star while both teams are fighting. Palpatine wins again!
I was just running with the current teams of x-men:Storm, Nightcrawler, Kitty Pryde, Bishop, Rogue, Emma Frost, Psylocke (yep, she’s back), Colossus (yep, him too), Phoenix (rachel summers is back, not Jean Grey), Iceman, Gambit, Polaris, Havok, Cyclops,the Beast, and about eight to ten Wolverines (not counting avengers wolverine). I think that’s everyone involved. I don’t know what happened to the Juggernaut so I didn’t include him. If we did, then the battle is over no matter who gets involved.
And again, the X-Men simply have more powers than the jedi can deal with. In the marvel universe, the jedi would have Captain America like speed, agility, and skill, with minor league precog and telepathy. Their durability is not much better than a normal human, and if the third movie is any indication their hands fly right off.
The X-Men have advantages in psychic abilities even without Professor X involved. The jedi have some neat tricks, but the X-paths are specialists and more powerful to boot. The X-Men are also trained to resist telepathy and can hold their own against the low level ones, which the jedi fall into again. Yoda may be a mental badass, but that’s it, and he’s still outgunned.
Then there is the long distance/area of effect category which again favors the x-men. Storm, Polaris, Iceman, and Phoenix lead the way with Havok and Cyclops coming in second. You can’t block being frozen solid via telekinesis, magnetism, or ice. You can’t precog your way out of a tornado. You can’t do much against even a half power cyclops area blast and Havok can destroy huge areas with his plasma blasts without much effort.
Even the melee category is close if not a draw. The X-Men still have Colossus, Rogue, Beast, Gambit, Nightcrawler, and Bishop simply because I don’t know what category to put him in otherwise. Wolverine can brawl with the best of them. Nightcrawler is probably jedi level in swordsmanship and combat, with the added teleportation. Beast is just as agile and stronger. Gambit has got to be pretty close. One hit from Rogue or Colossus would knock a jedi out cold and their enhanced durability would prevent them from going down like punks. They can’t touch Kitty Pryde at all. There’s a decent chance that the light saber, being energy based, would be entirely useless against Bishop and would only charge him up.
To put it bluntly, even the best of the jedi and sith combined to not have the chops to go toe to toe with the x-men. They are underpowered for the job. They should stick to clones with bad aim and asthmatic cyborgs. More their speed.
Yeah, but they don’t fly off for the hell of it. How many X-men are coming away unscathed from a run in with a light saber?
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They also seem to have a serious problem holding on to their lightsabers!
Think about how many times in the SW series someone has lost their saber in the middle of a fight.
Now would YOU want to take on Wolverine if you had just dropped your only weapon?Are we assuming that the X-men are just going to stand there and be hit?
I should also clarify something. The Captain America ones are likely the elite jedi. The closest marvel equivalent I can think of for the rank and file jedi would be hand ninjas.
As for the question, a few. Wolverines adamantium skeleton would keep the saber from cutting right through, and probably heal from even the most cauterized of wounds. I’m thinking of when Magneto shoved asteroid M into the sun and he still healed up. Any jedi that gets close enough to hit him with a saber is going to get a gut full of claw. Wolverine has no problems killing when it’s necessary.
Next up are Rogue and Colossus. The enhanced durability would keep the saber from it’s normal “hot knife through butter” effectiveness. Once they are up close, super strength becomes the deciding factor and the offending jedi takes a short flight.
I already pointed out that it’s not impossible that Bishop would simply absorb the energy from the saber. As an extra kink, he’d probably be able to handle force lightning without too much difficulty. That takes out the sith lords.
Kitty Pryde is untouchable, period. For an extra bonus, her phase disruption would likely fry the technological marvel that is the light saber.
Psylocke has her tk/psychic energy blades which could parry the saber. Combat skills come into play and her ninja training at least makes it a draw. Her psychic and tk abilities tip the scale.
Emma Frost can turn into diamond. Not sure how that would effect the light saber, but it would at least slow it down. This assumes that the jedi get past her telepathy and into saber range. Big if.
Iceman can reform himself as long as there is moisture in the air since his body is now made completely of ice. They can chop all the live long day if they get close enough, which is another big if. He’d just reform and freeze again.
Storm? They wouldn’t even get close. The jedi can’t fly and her wind control would make jumping an impossibilty. Storm can control the weather of an entire planet. This is no contest.
Polaris can freeze large groups of people in their tracks. Tossing around a few sabers would be no problem. Tossing around a few jedi? Also not a problem. Magnetic defense shield would keep the sabers at bay. She’s even a little crazy and has no problem killing. Jedi? Deadi.
Phoenixs telekinetic and pychic abilities are effectively off the map. The jedi would not get close enough to use their sabers.
Cyclops eyebeam is pure kinetic energy. They couldn’t parry it if they wanted to. Havok can fire a wide beam of superheated plasma which also cannot be parried. They would get creamed by a saber *if * the jedi could get close enough to use them.
That leaves Gambit, Beast, and nightcrawler. Nightcrawler at least could teleport out of the way and handle a sword pretty well. That leaves Gambit and Beast.
Does that cover everything, or do I really have to get my geek on? 
Gambit could seduce any female Jedi or charm any males into thinking he was a really cool guy, and Beast would crack them up with a witticism and then pull them into taffy.
COUGHObi-WanletAnakinlive,sohe’sresponsibleforeverythingbadthathappenedintheoriginaltrilogywithVaderCOUGH!
Actually, I had thought about Gambits abilities as far as the charm goes, and decided that it was too close to the jedis own mind tricks. They cancelled each other out.
Of course, Gambit can channel his powers into enhanced speed, strength, and agility. His kinetic explosions would keep the jedi on their toes and possibly at a distance. He’s also no slouch in the melee department. He’s not wolverine good, but he’s good enough. He’d take a couple of jedi down before he went.
Beast is a longshot. He’s nimble and strong, but the jedi would be close to his equal in that regard. The force powers and light saber would tip the scale. Blue boy would be the weakest link.
Well if the Sith can be on the Jedi’s side, I figured the Death Star would just blow up whatever planet they were fighting on and end of story.
Of course, if Cyclops could look down that shaft and blow it up, I guess it wouldn’t work.
If we’re going that way…
Magneto could tear it apart, as could phoenix. Longshots luck would prevent it from firing in the first place. Professor Xavier would telepathically fool them into believing that it fired. While they celebrate, the X-men could sneak on board and slaughter them.
Seriously, if that whiny ass punk Luke can take it down, the X-Men wouldn’t have a problem in the world. 