The Office (US) discussion

Good show.

Michael gets way too much screen time. It’s always the same childish stuff.

Dwight and Jim are the best characters. (What is the dentist name? …Crentist)

Am I weird for thinking Angela is hot?

Angela is hot. She rarely smiles, but when she does it’s worth it.
You just start watching the show?
With the writers strike we haven’t seen any new material, waiting for the start of the new season.

I hope they bring back Karen. She got completely screwed over by Jim at the end of last season.
She was hot.

Or the end of the current season. We did have those first few episodes in Oct/Nov.

Wouldn’t hold your breath; she’s starring in the new Fox comedy, Unhitched.

I sort of feel like the show has peaked and is in decline now. In its heyday, it peaked big. I think it left the well-regarded UK version in the dust, mainly on the strength of Steve Carrell, but I feel like it’s basically done.

Which is rather disappointing because everything I’ve heard about that show says it sucks.

You might be right, and if you are, I’m putting the blame squarely on NBC for forcing the show to carry their entire schedule this season (pre strike it was planned this way at least). Weren’t they supposed to have something like 30 episodes, some of which were an hour long. I don’t think any creative team can overcome that much manipulation from the suits at the network.

I, like Ogre, believe that the show has peaked and is in decline. It simply cannot sustain itself for umpteen seasons.

I also don’t agree that it has eclipsed the UK version. There aren’t any clunkers in the UK version. Every sentence and every scene has some purpose. Same cannot be said of the US version. The episode with Michael and Dwight landing in the lake, for instance, was almost cringeworthy it was so bad.

I still watch the show religiously but hope that the writers and Carrell negotiate an ending point so that it goes out with a bang and not a whimper.

No way. The British version is one of the top ten sitcoms. No other sitcom has explored the pathos of modern suburban life and office work as well as The Office.

And it was really funny.

I think you’re all right about the show being in its decline. It reminds me of Seinfeld in a way toward the end of its run, which started becoming more and more bizarre (the writers were clearly running out of ideas). The last few episodes of The Office (excluding “The Deposition”) seemed really, really weird to me.

You’re not the only one who has a weird fascination with Angela.

As for the show, I thought the first two seasons were riveting, but the third was inconsistent. The show is at its best when the absurdity is subtle and grounded in reality; I feel like more of the later episodes stray into the overtly ridiculous, and then it becomes just another zany sitcom.

I can’t include this season’s episodes in my comments (I only watch it on DVD when it comes out), but I think each succeeding season had been better than the last. The episode where Dwight maced Roy was magnificent: just when you started to think that maybe Dwight has his usefulness, he maces Andy and you realize, nope, Dwight really is just a clueless, fascist nerd.

And yes, I’m starting to think Angela is even hotter than Pam. I think there’s no question she’s an absolute tiger in bed. I never found Karen to be that hot: her body is too boyish, although her voice is sexier than hell. Also, what casting moron decided to pass off the daughter of Quincy Jones and Peggy Lipton as Italian? Raiin Wilson even remarks on this in one of the episode commentaries.

I have to agree that some third-season episodes have gotten ridiculous. E.g., Michael was just over the top at Phyllis’s wedding.

I agree with you about the voice. That, to me, was her best feature.

I love the show, but I’d probably like it better if they focused less on Michael

So I am weird, just not alone. :slight_smile:

Yeah, I agree. I hate it when they go camp. Except for the time when Dwight was modeling a speech after Mussolini. Fascist dictators are hilarious.

Another thing I could’ve done without was the story arch with Pams ex bf in season 3. He was too sad to be funny.

Aren’t there darker skinned people in southern Italy and Sicily?

I had the idea that there are, for some reason.

-FrL-

I know Italians that are considerably darker than Jones.

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I would have thought so.

(Truth be told, I had no idea she was anything other than white.)

-FrL-

Rashida Jones (the actress who plays Karen) is easily light-skinned enough to be Italian: her mother is ‘Mod Squad’ actress Peggy Lipton (and her father the music great Quincy Jones).

Understandably, it’s Karen’s facial features that don’t look even remotely Italian.

In curious contrast, Steve Carell, who plays the very white* Michael Scott, is 100% Italian-American – his surname was originally ‘Carello’.

  • In the first-season episode ‘Diversity Day’, Michael cluelessly declares his ancestry to be, “part English, part Scotch, and part German – a veritable UN”.