When I don’t have a dog in the fight, I often go with the silliest-sounding mascot… although for this game, that’s no tiebreaker. It would be so much easier if one of these teams were called the Yellow Banana Slugs, or something…
OK, go Beavs, if only to screw up the BCS further. Anarchy now! Go Beavers!
Shit on 'em. 45-42.
It’s not arbitrary at all. No one, and I mean no one, is arguing that TT should come out of the south. They are out of it in pretty much everyone’s mind because they got beaten so badly. Everyone I’ve talked to, and all of the talking heads have the argument coming down to OU vs. Texas. Texas won that head to head matchup, and therefore should go to the championship.
And now on to my preliminary BCS bowl projections:
National Title game: Big 12 champ (assuming the South team wins) vs. SEC champ (Alabama or Florida). I’m liking Alabama vs. Texas
Now on to the selections. The Sugar bowl picks first because they lose #1 Alabama to the championship game, Fiesta #2 due to losing Texas, and then it reverts to the normal schedule. Fiesta first, Sugar second, and Orange last. Rose bowl gets USC and Penn State automatically, and the Orange gets the ACC champ. Utah is an automatic qualifier, as is the Big East champ (Cincinnati) .
Sugar Bowl: Florida
Fiesta: Oklahoma
Fiesta: Ohio State. Fiesta has to choose between Utah, Boise State and Ohio State, the next highest available BCS school. OSU travels well, which means Boise gets hosed.
Sugar: Utah. It’s either Utah or Cincy, and Utah is the no brainer choice.
Orange: Cincinnati. The Orange bowl gets hosed, and has a less glamorous match up than a few second tier bowls.
That ends up:
National Champ: #1 Alabama vs. #2 Texas
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Ohio State
Sugar: Florida vs. Utah
Rose: USC vs Penn State
Orange: Boston College (Big East champs) vs. Cincinnati
Boise St. gets screwed in this scenario.
The only two question marks that remain in my mind is if Oklahoma holds on vs. OSU, and if the Big 12 South team loses in the Big 12 title game. It doesn’t really matter who wins the SEC championship game. The winner plays for the National Title, and the loser plays in the Sugar bowl. It looks like Oklahoma is going to hang on, so that answers that. The only question left is if the Big 12 South team wins the Big 12 championship. If they don’t, I think that means USC gets into the title game. Then the Rose Bowl gets the 2nd pick.
I think it then goes:
Sugar Bowl: Florida
Rose Bowl: Oregon. Maintains tradition. Last year is precedent for this decision.
Fiesta Bowl: Utah
Sugar: Oklahoma (Assuming Texas lost in the Big 12 champ)
Orange: Cincinatti
Which ends up with:
Nat Champ: Alabama vs. USC
Rose: Oregon vs. Penn State
Fiesta: Mizzou (Big 12 champ) vs. Utah
Sugar: Florida vs. Oklahoma
Orange: Cincy vs. Boston College
Roll Tide!
I think Oklahoma will go to the CCG. The Oklahoma bias in the polls has been obvious for a while now. They were somehow ahead of Texas even before this week, and even before beating TT they were getting ridiculous votes.
As far as I know, Texas would have the tiebreaker in the other major conferences.
Even if you ignore that Texas beat Oklahoma, Texas also beat Missouri and Oklahoma didn’t. It makes more sense to use that as a tiebreaker than to use the biased political votes.
It will be odd to see a CCG between two teams that Texas beat, neither of which beat Texas or each other.
Actually, let me amend this. I think the Fiesta still goes for Ohio State, which forces the Sugar to take Utah.
How do you resolve the fact that there is a 3 way tie? Throw out TT because they got their butts kicked? Margin of victory is nowhere to be found in the tie breaking system. If it were, it would favor OU because of their margins over Tech and OSU. UT is very conveniently wanting to forget that they lost and if that doesn’t work, they pull out the “we had 4 tough games” or “we lost in the last second” excuses. Cry me a river. I’m afraid that losses count no matter what. Using a UT victory (at home) over Mizzou isn’t exactly fair either since neither TT nor OU played them.
I hate to say it but I’m afraid that the current system is about the fairest way to resolve a 3 way tie. If someone has a better idea, I’d really like to hear it.
Ow 
That sucked.
But I can not see the Fiesta Bowl taking OU again if they have any say at all.
Why the hell not? A high-scoring, exciting team, from a traditional power whose fans travel well, who were part of one of the greatest games ever the last time they were there… They’d love to have OU.
Come to think of it, an OU-Boise rematch might be TV ratings gold.
Go Jackets!
Roll Motherfuckin Tide, Roll!
The new chant in Tuscalosa is “ZERO, MOTHERFUCKERS. ZERO.” We shut them out, we dismantled them.
Also, I read the dumbest sentence ever on ESPN describing the game: “Saban’s method is almost methodical.”
I also enjoyed that one quite a bit. Although I’m sure they’ve written worse. That was from the article about how Alabama can’t lose next week, right?
I think we’re just going around in circles here, but I’ll go one more time:
The last sentence above is a non-sequitur.
Because TTech is out of the discussion (which is because OU destroyed them, and shut down their offense, which is something that nobody else, not even Texas, could do) you are tossing out the fact that they have the same record, and beat Texas.
I’m curious as to what your feelings on head-to-head matchups would have been if OU had lost to Ok State last night?
I’d like that too. Texas doesn’t have a defense. 
Roll Tide!
Oregon will finish in a 3-way tie for 3rd place in the Pac-10, with Cal and Arizona (assuming favorites win next weekend): conference records are USC 8-1, OSU 7-2, the others 6-3. So if any team other than USC goes to the Rose Bowl, wouldn’t it be the Beavers?
All of the above is wrong, because I misread Oregon’s record. Never mind…
My family are all 'Bama fans, and my parents, my brother and I all live about 15 miles from Clemson. Now that Dabo (member of 'Bama’s '92 NC team) is the interim head-coach as Clemson, we are all rooting for him to do well.
My brother told me that Dabo had said in an interview that he had all of his assistants penciled in in case he gets the Clemson job permanently*, and that, in the event that Saban retired, he had his assistants for that job penciled in as well. Then he winked.
This filled my brother with glee, but I thought it was a bit… no, a LOT presumptious to be talking about leaving Clemson for 'Bama before he even gets the Clemson job.
Can anybody confirm this, or know anything about it?
FTR, I have now seen Oklahoma State play in two games this season. First was a few weeks ago against Texas Tech. In that game Texas Tech’s offense looked unstoppable. Then last night against Oklahoma. Oklahoma’s offense looked invincible.
Which has me wondering exactly how badly Oklahoma State’s defense sucks?
Then Tech would have gone to the championship game based on head to head match up.
The fun will come if USC loses to UCLA. Then the tie breakers are:
(1) Record vs. tied teams. All are 1-1, so it goes to (2)
(2) Record vs. next highest team in regular season standings. Cal is the next team. They beat Oregon, and lose to OSU and USC.
Oregon is out of the discussion, and it is just between USC and OSU now. Tie breaker is:
(1) Head to head match up. OSU gets this one.
So if USC loses tomorrow (and Cal wins), it’s OSU that will go to the Rose Bowl.
A tale of two defenses. They’ve never been great, but at Tech, they flat didn’t show up (along with the rest of the team), and they showed spurts of great play at times against OU.
Against UT and Mizzou, they were pretty good. But we’ve lacked the ability to get consistent pressure on quarterbacks with our front for, which gets the secondary ripped apart when there’s a good o-line. But it is better than last year, which isn’t saying a ton, unfortunately.
Jermaine Gresham being made of magic helped out that offense too.