The Orville Season 2

Holy crap that was unexpected! :eek: For a moment I had hopes that those corpses were the Kaylons’ biological forms before some kind of technological singularity and uploaded themselves into artificial bodies, but nope, the machines rose up against their creators. Now I wonder if it’s going to get bad enough that the Union and the Krill have to join forces. :cool:

I think I’m going to be disappointed if Isaac ends up saving the day; even if he sacrifices himself by doing so. It’s too cliché.

Agreed; the Kaylon are going to seek to exterminate all biological lifeforms lest biological lifeforms try to exterminate them.

Maybe the Orville (& it’s crew) are part of a plan to keep the Union Fleet’s guard down as long as possible. Not sure how the crew fits into this since I don’t any of the command staffing playing along for cameras; perhaps they have enough data to convincingly fake communications, but not biosigns?

All this has happened before and all this will happen again? :wink:

I wondered about that, as well as why all of the Kaylons were bipedal humanoids. I had assumed that Isaac assumed that form and had the “eyes” to accommodate the humans (and also because it makes it easier to operate the controls on board the ship). But then we saw that the biological creators of the Kaylons were also bipedal humanoids. So it’s likely that the Kaylons were designed that way.

Doesn’t explain why Isaac’s eyes are a different color than the others.

Because unless you’re talking about a Great White Whale, an enormous shark, or a planet-eating Doomsday Machine, you want your good guys and bad guys to not just fight, but to fight each other. Preferably hand to hand, but at least face to face. Because this time it’s personal!

And never, EVER question why characters don’t do something that seems perfectly logical. You’ll destroy the entire mystery, action, and situation comedy genres - just to name three.:smiley:

The Kaylon’s preliminary research indicated humans would find glowing red eyes ominous?

I thought it was amazing that they know how to sit even though there are no chairs on their planet. Why build in the ability to sit if there is no way or reason to use it? Or is that too much nitpicking?

why would they feel a need to hide the bodies of the dead?

Indeed. Building those caverns and dumping bodies in them has to be more involved than simply vaporizing the bodies.

But the people nitpicking that episode showed no signs of loving it.

Maybe humans are the Pakleds of the Orville-verse.

:smiley: The similarities are too obvious. Was MacFarlane influenced by BSG, or is it not just that original an idea? The Kaylon/cylon creation kills its creator. Not that I don’t like it. I want to watch BSG again.

“God did it. So say we all!”

Robots / AI killing their creators was probably in thousands of stories before BSG, it definitely didn’t start there.

Those head-guns were super creepy.

I’m kinda waiting for the Dr to show up.

Yes, the Kaylons were reminding me of the Cybermen too.

The whole trope of glowing eyes is stupid in the first place. What’s a great way to make an effective optical sensor? Not by making the whole thing glow.

Except we were told that the glowing “eyes” are not optical sensors, but just there to make the humanoids comfortable and the Kaylons “see” with unseen sensors.

Exactly. Why to the others have them? They decided to light up when humans came to visit?
I presume the different color is so that we can recognize Issac. Is that Issac, or another unit pretending to be him?

This dates from the early days of SF.

Keep in mind that the Kaylons were designed by humanoids. Presumably they designed them to appear more relatable to their creators and the glowing eyes could be a holdover from the original design.

The different colors could indicate the intended functionality of a given unit.

just like light sabers and blasters - blue=good, red=bad.