The Orville Season 2

[Elendil_s_Heir]

Pretty good episode, I thought, although I figured out right away that Malloy was scamming his buddy in agreeing to steal a shuttle in order to foil his eeeeevil plot.

I agree with those who noticed the strong *TNG *vibe of this episode, in particular. It had some definite echoes of “The Wounded,” in which O’Brien has to confront his former captain, who’s out for revenge against the Cardassians: The Wounded (episode) | Memory Alpha | Fandom

I thought the First Officer, having just done a shot of alien booze, was going to be swaying a little and trying to conceal her intoxication from the admiral. A missed opportunity for a joke.

Favorite line, when Malloy says Mercer is jealous of his friendship with the ex-Krill prisoner: “What is this, sixth grade?”

@El_Kabong

Whoops; thanks for the correction. Too bad they didn’t follow on with a scene after the N2 had been replaced with helium; her yelling at the crew in a high, squeaky voice would have been a perfect bit of Macfarlanesque humor…

That would’ve been funny, and not left us wondering what became of her.

@El_Kabong

…So, what was in the container was a plasma plasma?

In a scene that was cut from the episode, the officer responsible for plasma plasma handling on the *Orville *is revealed to be Major Major Major.

@muldoonthief

I liked the episode, but the whole bit with Talla delaying the Krill diplomats was just dumb. That’s the kind of thing that kills peace treaties to begin with - there’s a reason that diplomatic immunity exists. Intentionally insulting the Krill representatives would pretty much wipe out any possibility of negotiations…

Agreed.

@Shoeless

After the Krill accused Orrin of destroying their ships with nothing but a shuttle, and a scan for weapons on the shuttle turned up negative, I told my wife “she’s the weapon.” But I was thinking more like telekinetic power or something…

Heh. I had the same thought.

@Horatius

The scene pretty much writes itself.
Krill Officer: Before we can begin, there are just a few minor boarding regulations we must adhere to…

Focus shifts to background shot of a large Krill snapping on a rubber glove

End Scene.
Maybe we have someone exclaim, “That’s the first step?”

Love it! Turnabout is fair play, after all. Better still if the glove has… protrusions.

No new episode this week, alas.

[Elendil_s_Heir]

John Fleck, who played the leader of the Krill delegation, has a long list of ST appearances: John Fleck | Memory Alpha | Fandom

[Bryan_Ekers]

What bugged me most about the “stall them” sequence is that Mercer invited them over in the first place. The problem was of his own creation.

[SlackerInc]

In the comments on Jammer’s site, someone made what I thought was a good point: they should have brought Ed’s Krill ex-girlfriend into play somehow. After all, his defying the admiralty and letting her go was explicitly stated to be a gambit to try to increase the chances of peace.

[Andy_L]

@SlackerInc

In the comments on Jammer’s site, someone made what I thought was a good point: they should have brought Ed’s Krill ex-girlfriend into play somehow. After all, his defying the admiralty and letting her go was explicitly stated to be a gambit to try to increase the chances of peace.

Jammer’s still around!?! Great news! I loved his reviews of DS9 and Voyager - will have to look up his Orville writing.

[Johnny_Bravo]

@SlackerInc

In the comments on Jammer’s site, someone made what I thought was a good point: they should have brought Ed’s Krill ex-girlfriend into play somehow. After all, his defying the admiralty and letting her go was explicitly stated to be a gambit to try to increase the chances of peace.

It would actually be pretty cool if she turned out to be a hardliner who opposes the peace process. It would be a nice reversal of the white savior trope that they’re setting up.

[Misnomer]

@simster

@Misnomer

When Talla suggested the Krill go behind the pile of boxes to provide the urine samples, I was SO expecting a “pee corner” reference. I can’t decide if I’m disappointed that there wasn’t one.

That was the reference.

Sorry, I should have been more specific: I was expecting the words “pee corner” to actually come out of her mouth.

[SlackerInc]

@Andy_L

Jammer’s still around!?! Great news! I loved his reviews of DS9 and Voyager - will have to look up his Orville writing.

Yeah, people still comment on those old reviews too! (I am SlackerInc there too, just like here and on Twitter.)

[Morbo]

@Shoeless

After the Krill accused Orrin of destroying their ships with nothing but a shuttle, and a scan for weapons on the shuttle turned up negative, I told my wife “she’s the weapon.” But I was thinking more like telekinetic power or something.

I thought she was some sort of secret alien disguising herself as a human, until they showed the needle marks on her arm with human red blood spots around them, so I ruled that out. Then later it was revealed that she did, in fact, have different (yellow) blood. Not sure why the needle marks didn’t reflect that.

[SlackerInc]

I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak.

[SenorBeef]

Leads to less questioning about her past, and if she gives an impression of being almost feral people will tiptoe around her and not demand medical screenings as hard and such.

[Just_Asking_Questions]

@SlackerInc

I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak.

Probably to garner sympathy. No one would press to do a med scan on a traumatized “little girl”. They’d cut her a lot of slack, which to her means they are stupid and let her operate freely.

[Wheelz]

I really liked Scott Grimes in the last episode. Malloy is often a goofy comic-relief character, but here he had some pretty weighty stuff to deal with, and Grimes pulled it off well.

It kind of reminded me of his stint on ER, when he went from a semi-competent, insecure med student who was the butt of many jokes, to chief resident within two seasons.

[Andy_L]

@SenorBeef

Leads to less questioning about her past, and if she gives an impression of being almost feral people will tiptoe around her and not demand medical screenings as hard and such.

If you can’t talk, you’re not going to screw up and say something that doesn’t fit the story.

@Wheelz

I really liked Scott Grimes in the last episode. Malloy is often a goofy comic-relief character, but here he had some pretty weighty stuff to deal with, and Grimes pulled it off well.

It kind of reminded me of his stint on ER, when he went from a semi-competent, insecure med student who was the butt of many jokes, to chief resident within two seasons.

He set the tone! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlNcU8EZyeE

[Biffster]

@SlackerInc

I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak.

She had to pretend to be Orin’s traumatized daughter. I imagine there’s fewer questions if you can’t speak.

[SlackerInc]

So do we think that knife could even cut through Alara’s skin?

[carnivorousplant]

@SlackerInc

I’m still not clear on why she pretended not to be able to speak.

She didn’t want to have to answer questions about being whats-his-name daughter.

[carnivorousplant]

@SlackerInc

So do we think that knife could even cut through Alara’s skin?

Why not?

[SlackerInc]

@carnivorousplant

Why not?

She has super strength, and recovered from a normally killing blow from a phaser (or whatever they call them) without any visible wounds.

[Elendil_s_Heir]

That weapon was set on stun. We’ve seen them used to stun and not kill before.