Y’know, up 'til he said “Jap” I was somewhat willing to consider whether or not the fellow in question was not so much rascist as he was an idiot.
Now I think he’s a racist idiot.
Oh, and Guin, marry me dammit.
Game, set, and match. I believe Guinastasia wins this one walking away 
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By the way JanL, no reputable sociologist these days believes that IQ correlates exactly with intelligence. It is not a culturally blind test. This isn’t GD and I don’t think it’s worth the effort to dig up cites right now, but the rest of your “science” ( or your vague references to it anyway ) is just as flawed. Every attempt to associate intelligence with “race” ( however you attempt to define it ) has been de-bunked, from The Bell Curve on down. If you wish to throw that post out into GD, I’m sure some folks will be happy to tear it apart piece by bloody piece for you.
And Hemlock’s assertions to the contary, there ain’t nothing PC about it. Just the facts. I’m afraid you search for the “scientific validity of Apartheid” is, as our charmingly shy and retiring Collounsbury might say, just a racist wet dream.
- Tamerlane
Uh, yeah. #1.
So, I read that extract from Mr. Lamprecht’s great thoughts, and part way through, I spotted this:-
And immediately my kook meter (which was hanging by a thread already) started banging its gong and flashing its red lights. Sorry, but there comes a point when you have to stop giving people the benefit of the doubt, and just accept that whatever comes out of their mouth is the purest gobbledeygook, uncontaminated by any taint of reality. And that was it for me. This guy is claiming expertise in African politics and race issues, and also writes books about hollow planets?! Mr Lamprecht, you can continue to take yourself seriously, but there is no way on God’s earth I’m going to.
(I found the book on Amazon. The full title is Hollow Planets : A Feasibility Study of Possible Hollow Worlds - Could the Planets Mercury, Venus and Earth Possibly be Hollow? The answer, by the way, is “no”.)
Hollow Planets on Amazon. Funny stuff!
Yep, looks like racism to me, with a heaping measure of drooling imbecility tossed into the recipe as well.
So SCIENCE [and I have to hope this all-caps term differs from ‘science’] may one day be able to prove that institutionalized racism is a good idea?
I presume this is the same quality of SCIENCE that led you to believe that the earth is hollow? I’m convinced. Not just a net-kook; but a racist net-kook.
Guin, stay away from this man. He is plenty bad.
rofl… I withdraw my previous comment about almost supporting his arguments (not having read over his site, mind you) until I read the rather frightening letter from a ‘supporter’; this is even more hilarious. I wonder if the local library has a copy; I love reading laughably bad pseudoscience but would hate to buy it.
I’m waiting for december’s comments. Can he still claim that this is all liberal nastiness? Form says yes.
Nifty. So I’m smarter than a white person, but not as smart as full Asian. Must tell Dad that he’s smarter than Mom by virture of race. Is it just me (pretty still a newbie) or is it bad form to post a user’s real name without their permission? And to post email addresses for people uninvolved in the discussion?
My father and his family had all their possessions taken by the Canadian government in WWII, because they were “Japs” and dangerous. Including my grandad’s rickety fishing boat (you know, he might have paddled to Japan! :rolleyes: ). It is not a word which endears Jan to me at all.
I wish I had a copy of the post where it sounded like he claims mixed-race breeding is a terrible idea. Gah. Go, Guin!
I am embarassed at having supported Janl. He sounds like an ignorant racist. Guinastasia, I salute you!
[sub]BTW, why is an ignorant racist more concerned about the plight of Black people in Zimbabwe and in South Africa than we good-hearted, knowledgable Dopers?[/sub]
Because he is using concern for black south africa as an excuse to justify a return to apartheid.
Oh, and here is the thread at Snopes-I asked about Nelson Mandela, and only mentioned Jan’s site after someone claiming he was from that site mentioned it.
Jan, sorry, your game is up. If that post is indeed your writing (which I believe, cause I trust Guin to be intelecttually honest).
If anyone has been going to different boards and slandering someone, it’s you.
Hello, I’m back.
The game is not up for Jan. Political correctness has blinded your eyes. He understands the world better than you do. All you see is what the whites did to the blacks and not the monsters that the communists made these black thugs like Mandela and Mugabe. As for me I am proud of not being poltically correct. I am Biblically correct and put the Bible and God as the standard for all that I do. Here is my letter of support for Jan on the guestbook on his website:
Jan,
I want to say that I have read through all your site and want to compliment you on your treasure-trove of information about the countries of South Africa and Rhodesia( I refuse to recognize Zimbabwe as a true country). You are a very patriotic man and are passionate in your war against the communists that toppled and took over the governments of both countries.
Also, Jan, anybody who calls you a racist has not read the site or can’t comprehend English. Any racists or white supremists who think they have an ally in you also have not read the site carefully. The only blacks he has a problem with are those blacks who follow the communists and /or who are criminals. He documents on his site show that communisn is not racist at all. It was brought to SA and Rhodesia by both whites and blacks lead by the KGB and Russian and Cuban forces. He also shows how the communists inflamed the blacks’ pagan tribal inclinations with Marxism to make them into thugs and criminals who pray on both black and whites alike. He also shows that the communists are not racists in their choice of victims, they prey upon, mutilate, and kill blacks and whites alike in their bloody rampages.
I am not a racist, but I do not believe that blacks as a whole are developed in their spiritual growth as a race to rule their own countries, especially in Africa. They have not given up their ungodly pagan ways as a whole and naturally resort to tribal ways. All countries in Africa are ruled by a tribe who is in power. If you are not a member of that tribe then you are second-class. They needed colonialism to lead them in the true ways of Christianity and Government. I am not an advocate of slavery, but if the blacks in America had not come as slaves, they would have never known about God. Likewise with colonialism in Africa. Both institutions were not perfect and there were ungodly people in both.
And to any blacks and liberals reading this, I am not saying that blacks need to go back to slavery at all. It was the whites who brought the gospel to you and it is to the whites that you should be grateful. If you murder all the whites in SA in a bloodbath, God will hold their blood on your heads. To blacks in America, you are not accepted fully in society because you used ungodly means to achieve your ends. Instead of working and using the Godly witness that many of you possesed after the Civil War , you let ungodly men and communist fronts like Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Jesse Jackson, and others be your voice and lead you into victimhood. Communists are just using to tear aper society. Believe me, Russians and Chinese are the ultimate racists, when they are through with you they will spit you out.
Keep up the good work, Jan. I am looking forward to your book. You have shown yourself to me in your articles on Nyquist’s site, and in your book, Hollow Planets, that you are an anaytical thinker of the first magnitude.
This summarizes my beliefs. I maintain that Martin Luther King is a communist and a pervert if you consider having relations with 8 women of both races at the same time perversion. The FBI has 9 files on his sexual life and 1 of his communist connections. I learned about these files on the evening news. The files themselves are to be released to the public in 2007. This man does not deserve to be called a Reverend.
Now I do not find his Hollow Planets Postulate off the mark. He presents a good case, but like macroevolution it has not been proven, so it is only a postulate and not a theory. I am a Chemist and know scientific theory and even if he is wrong, I find nothing wrong with his reasonings.
Sandy
Yes, you are also a racist scumbag. Please report to the nearest bottomless chasm and hurl yourself into it for the benefit of all humanity, okay?
This is among the most offensive things I have seen quite some time. This goes beyond Jan’s IQ nonsense and now suggests someone is spiritually lacking because of their race. What would your Jesus say about this? May the Invisible Pink Unicorn send you back as human being with dark skin in your next life.
You have a cite to back that up? Besides MLK.org, that is. I only say this because the last time someone tried to use that as a cite here, that someone had his ass handed to him on a silver platter.
As for the FBI’s file on MLK, you might want to read up about dear old J. Edgar himself.
Oh, and you just proved that you are indeed a hateful, intolerant racist. May God forgive you.
The part about depravity and God not blessing these people-well, I will for once risk having Godwin called on me by saying-you sound a lot like this dude who lived in Germany back in the 1930s…
:eek:
Waverly,
Blacks in Africa have not received the gospel as a whole. It has not penetrated their hearts. They are lost and like all unsaved people of all races and cultures will go to anarchy without Christianity. God changes the heart, and if he changes the hearts of these unsaved blacks, then they can rule effectively. They only know how to follow their tribal witchcraft. Blacks in America have received the gospel and I voted for a black Christian for President, Alan Keyes, who was the most intelligent candidate. He actually answered the questions in the debates and did not give canned answers. Also he understands relationship between the Bible and the Constitution. America was created as a Christian country and I want it restored as such.
Apparently, our dear friend Sandy has never read the First Amendment, and does not know about the Establishment Clause.
:rolleyes:
Christian country indeed.