In his speech today, Rudy was sweating profusely, there are videos of his hair dye dripping down the side of his face.
He also hinted that they’re about to start trying to overturn Virginia.
The two Wayne County Republicans who refused to certify the election, then changed their minds after an uproar, got calls from Individual 1 last night and this morning tried to uncertify again, after the certification had already been sent on to the state.
Didn’t they try that already, like 150 years ago? Seems that was over them pitching a fit over a democratically elected president.
A former Individual 1 speechwriter who was fired for his dealings with white supremacists has been appointed to the board that oversees Holocaust memorials.
Yeah, probably a CYA reversal, but this can still do damage, particularly as this becomes a tactic employed over and over again.
Meanwhile here’s the official twitter feed from one of the two major parties in this country:
“We won in a landslide!”
“Facts are lies!”
“Lies are facts!”
Good God, what the hell?
My sister texted me with plans for the Thanksgiving get together. I replied that due to the Covid spike I was not attending any holiday gatherings.
Honestly, it was about 10% Covid worry and about 90% not wanting to be alone in a huge group of Trumpy Republicans. I am afraid that if they start spouting the righty nonsense I would absolutely lose my shit and say things that could not be unsaid.
I don’t know if it was worth the global pandemic and all that came with it, but having a good excuse to not attend Thanksgiving with my trumpy family is a bit of a silver lining. Especially this year. My mother has been spamming my in-box with conspiracy crap as it is. I don’t think I could handle it in person.
I am very lukcy in that respect, because while many in my family support Trump, we just don’t discuss politics. But I am still not going to go to any Thanksgiving dinner.
But…the whole time you are with them aren’t you thinking “these are the people that did this to my country”? Even if politics is never mentioned, and it hasn’t been in the last few gatherings with my family, there is the constant awareness that these are the people that are bringing (or hoping to) an autocratic Trump cult to another term in power?
In my family, there is no belief that the election was stolen. As to their support of Trump, it is because they are woefully misinformed. They get all their information from FOX et al. And yes, they have a responsibilty to look at other sources for their information. But to a certain extent we are all in our own bubble. When was the last time you read an article from Forbes, or National Review, and really thought that maybe the conservatives had a point? Not about Trump the man, just on an issue that you had a liberal belief about. I like to think I can look at an issue and be objective about it. And I try, but when I read such articles I immediately start arguinig against them. Trump supporters, which really means Republican supporters, do the same thing.
People support Trump because of his positions and because he is defending the country from becomming the Soviet Union. But they have no idea what a liar, con man, selfish (insert a dozen adjectives) idiot Trump is. They have no idea how dangerouse he is. IF politics did come up in a discussion, I would point out all of those things. But to what end? The absolute best result would be to convince them that they should not have supported Trump, should have supported him being removed from office earlier this year. Pence, a true Christian man since he was a teenager (in their eyes, describing Pence as anything other than a snycopahtic liar is a joke) would probably have won this election. I really do believe that, but that could be another, interesting thread
I found the perfect description of his timeframes.
“Ain’t this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere”
That’s the kind of Nevada math that loses you a casino.
One tweet quoted over at Raw Story said: “I’m not sure Trump is getting his money’s worth.”
And with this quote, I can’t resist pointing out the parallel with the 1954 radio play The Investigator by Reuben Ship (YouTube link, 59 minutes), a parody of the Joseph McCarthy hearings, in which the Investigator ultimately accuses The Chief of being at the heart of a great conspiracy. This play seems oddly timely once again.
The difference between now and then is that, back then, there was a respected dude named Dwight D. Eisenhower who was the leader of the party and he fucking hated McCarthy and put a stop to his nonsense. Now “McCarthy” is the president, and nobody dares to cross him.
The thing is, I often focus not on the content of such articles, but the tactics. If I see someone throwing around straw men like it’s twister time on the Yellow Brick Road, along with the ABC’s of Fallacies 101, that by itself is highly likely going to make me disregard that source no matter where they fall on the political spectrum.
That it is usually the RW sites doing that is almost immaterial. [Yes, there are a few left-leaning sites that I now avoid, for the same rationale] Of the two that you mentioned, the NR does this shit a LOT more often than Forbes does.
I make it a practice to see a variety of news perspectives, though I do stick toward the middle of the accuracy chart.
Well, since 2016 they’re been railing against Trump, so I find myself agreeing, at least in part, with a lot of their stuff.
But you specifically exempt Trump stuff. When I pick up National Review and read it I get the same feeling I used to reading pieces by William F. Buckley (who started NR, after all). It’s intelligent and insightful and erudite and I can follow them along perfectly willingly until they get to the point where their basic assumptions are radically different from my own, and I watch them smoothly go sailing off the edge of the cliff.
Rick “Voldemort” Scott has the 'rona:
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In my family, there is no belief that the election was stolen. As to their support of Trump, it is because they are woefully misinformed. They get all their information from FOX et al. And yes, they have a responsibilty to look at other sources for their information. But to a certain extent we are all in our own bubble. When was the last time you read an article from Forbes, or National Review, and really thought that maybe the conservatives had a point? [/quote]
I look at National Review frequently and I sometimes agree with their articles.
Not just articles like this one. I quote this one frequently because it’s from a conservative source
Of course, their front page today is chock full of articles I agree with
And they’ve put up more like this since I started this post. They really don’t like Trump’s antics.
But you’re talking about actual policies, right? I’m going to agree with liberal policies much more frequently than I do conservative ones, because I’m a moderate liberal. But I’m not always in lockstep. One place where I’m more conservative is in my attitudes towards what I call “middle-class welfare”. Things like middle income affordable housing, one of the programs I hated when I lived in NYC. I’m also against student loan forgiveness and I agree with this article.