The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making

[Budget_Player_Cadet]

I notice no attempt was made to follow up on any of the previous statements. C’mon, engage. Get out of the echo chamber and talk to us. I want to understand you. I want to believe that for people like you, there’s a reason for what you’re doing that makes anything resembling sense. Help me out here.

[Gyrate]

@Enuma_Elish

Did the people who eventually voted for Trump or their supposed billionaire financial supporters (cough Koch cough) ever pay people to protest Obama?

Did the Democrats have multiple national news outlets paid by their supposed billionaire financial supporters (cough Soros cough) to spread hateful lies 24/7?

Did they ever protest in such a way that Obama supporters were hounded from public universities (supposed places of ‘free speech’)? Were there any actual violent protests against Obama?

Did Obama ever encourage his supporters on multiple occasions to physically assault protesters? Did he offer to pay their legal fees? Did Obama supporters actually assault not only protesters but members of the press? Did Obama laugh about it?

Did Republican supporters ever hound Democrat town meetings with loud mouthed vile and hate and treat it as a justified casual political response?

Did the Democrats propose legislation that would literally result in the deaths and bankruptcy of millions of Americans? Did Democratic Senators and Congressmen hide from their constituents in order to avoid having to justify that legislation?

I am not the liar here. I am not the hater. Look in the mirror, Lefties, the hate you see is your own.

I do so love these sorts of arguments from the right-wing. “Never mind this mountain range behind me - what about these molehills you made?”

[Ann_Hedonia]

@aurora_maire

How sad is it that I had to read a few sentences of that before realizing it wasn’t real? :eek:

He didn’t call TIME a lying FAKE news magazine so I knew it wasn’t true

[Happy_Lendervedder]

@Enuma_Elish

Did Republican supporters ever hound Democrat town meetings with loud mouthed vile and hate and treat it as a justified casual political response? No they didn’t.

By golly, yes they did. How can you possibly not remember this?

I am not the liar here.

Yes, you are. And a troll.

I am not the hater. Look in the mirror, Lefties, the hate you see is your own.

What does this have to do with the Trump administration? Ah right, nothing. That’s how trolls roll. Welcome to ignore.

[jsc1953]

@Siam_Sam

Like that weird old guy in lots of people’s neighborhoods that children are warned away from.

“Aw, crap! The Frisbee went into Old Man Trump’s yard!”

[Sunny_Daze]

@Enuma_Elish

Did the people who eventually voted for Trump or their supposed billionaire financial supporters (cough Koch cough) ever pay people to protest Obama? Did they ever protest in such a way that Obama supporters were hounded from public universities (supposed places of ‘free speech’)? Were there any actual violent protests against Obama? Did Republican supporters ever hound Democrat town meetings with loud mouthed vile and hate and treat it as a justified casual political response? No they didn’t. I am not the liar here. I am not the hater. Look in the mirror, Lefties, the hate you see is your own.

Here is a handy mnemonic to help you remember what we are discussing in this thread and why: who is the president now? Trump

[John_DiFool]

@The_Tooth

Better than Crooked Hitlery, or Benghazi!, or Fake News!! Their Little Golden Playbook covers it all.

This one, perhaps?

No-here ya go.

[Rick_Kitchen]

The Pentagon offered enlistments to foreign born people with skills that the military was looking for, but their enlistments have been lingering for so long that their visas have expired, and they face deportation.

The Pentagon promised citizenship to immigrants who served. Now it might help...

[mhendo]

@Rick_Kitchen

The Pentagon offered enlistments to foreign born people with skills that the military was looking for, but their enlistments have been lingering for so long that their visas have expired, and they face deportation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/26/the-pentagon-promised-citizenship-to-immigrants-who-served-now-it-might-help-deport-them/

I’m not sure how this incident, troubling as it is, qualifies for this thread.

Your own linked story makes quite clear that the MAVNI program has been going since 2009, and that the delays are a long-term issue that did not just originate with this administration. They are at risk of deportation because their visas have expired, and in most cases, their visas have expired because the military has been dragging its heels on the vetting process for months or years.

How the military and the administration act on this problem going forward is a relevant concern, but you can’t blame the current administration for causing the problem in the first place.

[bobot]

@John_DiFool

…
No-here ya go.

Can’t be that one. That one implies a millions of years old Earth and evolution. A suprising number of Republicans are too smart to fall for that bullshit lib “theory”.

[Sherrerd]

@running_coach

“The covers are real. TIME magazine altered corporate records to make Mr. Trump look bad. Anyone who says they have the original cover is a liar. How can millions of people have the original cover? There can only be one original. They’re all lying.”
How’d I do?

Given this site’s notorious Google-fu, your invention is virtually certain to be cited as proof that the cover is legit by, it’s conservatively estimated, at least 851,507 confused Trump fans.

:eek:

[Steve_MB]

Sanders opened Tuesday’s briefing by calling on a reporter from the conservative Breitbart News, who asked about the CNN story, and she expressed frustration with media coverage.

Awwww, does Hucky Boo Boo haz a sad?

[Biffster]

This is what a real President sounds like. Obama weighs in with some important observations about Trumpcare.

Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today.

I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did.

We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course.

Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams.

And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past.

We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible.

At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.

That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse.

But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system.

The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely.

Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation.

I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings?

To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need.

That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family.

After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.

Breaking: Barack Hussein Obama Has Just Released This Statement

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[mikecurtis]

At least some in his admin are fed up.

Senior diplomat in Beijing embassy resigns over Trump’s climate change decision.

The No. 2 diplomat at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing resigned Monday, telling staff his conscience would not permit him to formally notify the Chinese that the United States is withdrawing from the Paris climate accord. . .David H. Rank, a career Foreign Service officer of 27 years. . .told his staff that as “a parent, a patriot and a Christian,” he could not in good conscience play a role in implementing President Trump’s decision to withdraw. . .

Trump ‘simply does not care’ about HIV/AIDS, say 6 experts who just quit his advisory council.

The first hints of an uncertain future for the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS came last year, when Donald Trump’s presidential campaign refused to meet with advocates for people living with HIV, said Scott Schoettes, a member of the council since 2014.

That unease was magnified on Inauguration Day in January, when an official White House website for the Office of National AIDS Policy vanished, Schoettes said.

“I started to think, was it going to be useful or wise or would it be possible to work with this administration?” Schoettes told The Washington Post. “Still, I made a decision to stick it out and see what we could do.”

Less than six months later, Schoettes said those initial reservations had given way to full-blown frustration over a lack of dialogue with or caring from Trump administration officials about issues relating to HIV or AIDS.

Last week, he and five others announced they were quitting the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS, also known as PACHA.

[Siam_Sam]

@BlankSlate

The more important question: who taught the retarded chimpanzee how to use a keyboard?

You know what they say, if a chimp bangs on the keyboards long enough, he’ll eventually produce the works of Shakespeare. May take awhile though.

[Monty]

Yeah. But we’re going to need another chimp. The one we have isn’t up to the task.

[TonySinclair]

@Siam_Sam

You know what they say, if a chimp bangs on the keyboards long enough, he’ll eventually produce the works of Shakespeare. May take awhile though.

However, studies show that chimps are better at flinging shit than writing plays.

[Jack_Batty]

@Biffster

This is what a real President sounds like. Obama weighs in with some important observations about Trumpcare.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/e69746680402926923622f867094a185.jpg

Breaking: Barack Hussein Obama Has Just Released This Statement

And now, the Trump supporter rebuttal:

“He talks like a fag and his shit is all retarded.”

[Catamount]

@Biffster

This is what a real President sounds like. Obama weighs in with some important observations about Trumpcare.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/e69746680402926923622f867094a185.jpg

Breaking: Barack Hussein Obama Has Just Released This Statement

I miss the days when we had a President that actually paid attention to and understood the issues facing the country and didn’t spend half the night whinging about TV news anchors on Twitter.

[Enuma_Elish]

@Gyrate

Did the Democrats have multiple national news outlets paid by their supposed billionaire financial supporters (cough Soros cough) to spread hateful lies 24/7?

Seriously? CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, The entire Disney corporation, backed by Soros money, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Larry Ellison, The Waltons (Wal-Mart), the Rockefeller foundation, Michael Bloomberg, and the California idiot whose name I can’t remember who earned billions from conning Obama into thinking that technology (wind farms, wave farms, solar technology, etc. was actually capable of immediately making true the ‘environmental dreams of the idiot left’.

Did Obama ever encourage his supporters on multiple occasions to physically assault protesters? Did he offer to pay their legal fees? Did Obama supporters actually assault not only protesters but members of the press? Did Obama laugh about it?

What protestors? Obama is behind the paid protestors who use increasing violence to use force to shut down the freedom of speech of citizens who just want their voices to be heard.

Did the Democrats propose legislation that would literally result in the deaths and bankruptcy of millions of Americans? Did Democratic Senators and Congressmen hide from their constituents in order to avoid having to justify that legislation?

Deaths and bankruptcy? Nigga please. What do you call the casual heartless deaths of millions of black babies because of abortion? And Obama/Reid/Pelosi forced the Obamacare bill through without ever having been read…

Pull your lefty head out of your ass.

I do so love these sorts of arguments from the right-wing. “Never mind this mountain range behind me - what about these molehills you made?”

The mountain range is three generations of slave-owning Democrats finding another way to enslave minorities so that power could come into the hands of ugly racist left-wing whites. Martin Luther King was a Republican. Poverty Pimps like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and every white Democrat stole his message to enslave minorities.