I think VA Tech is about to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Christ, their pass rush is awful.
Aaaaaand, that’s the game, folks. Yet another early-season choke. I was rooting for Tyrod Taylor this time.
I really only follow the SEC, does this tell us anything about Boise State and there hopes for the BCS? I was travelling and couldn’t really watch the game…
Well, Boise won their one game season. Now we have to hear talk about them playing for the national title all year long. Thanks a lot Va Tech. if Boise actually plays for the BCS title, I will hate the Hokies forever.
Two game season.
And if this leads to a playoff being instituted, I’ll love the Hokies forever.
Note to Bud Foster: if your secondary plays mostly man-to-man, it’s fairly important to affect the quarterback.
Seriously, rushing 4 on third down against an empty backfield? :smack:
They’re unbeaten in BCS bowl games. WTF is anyone’s problem with Boise State? If you’re such a great program, schedule them and beat them. VA Tech tried and failed.
Boise State would finish in the top two of every BCS conference. They’d run through the Big East and ACC like shit through a goose.
Oh… I dunno. I’m not sure how it’s going to shake out this year, but last year both 'Bama and Florida were probably better than them. Texas and Oklahoma on most occasions too.
I have no problem saying that Boise State isn’t all that great. They have a weak schedule. Whatever. The point is that they do everything within their power, and still can’t win a national championship. I just want to see it proved on the field.
If Boise State won every game last year 60-0, they’d not have been in the title picture. That’s wrong. Especially since they show, once or twice a year, that they can play with traditional powers. The problem is that you have Cinci and Hawaii fucking it up for them (just forget about Ohio State getting crushed by LSU and Oklahoma getting crushed by USC).
For Boise State to make a national championship match they’d have to go undefeated and have every team in the SEC, Big-12, Big-10, and PAC-10 along with Notre Dame and Miami have at least two losses.
My team (Georgia) scheduled them in 2005. Boise got a world class ass-beating. Of course they are totally different teams now, but I would love to play them again.
Snarky’s putting it more eloquently, but it all comes down to this: Most fans are jealous of Boise’s easy schedule. Yes, Boise has shown that they can play with anybody for one game. But the rest of their schedule after VT consists of Oregon State, Nevada, and Fresno State. Georgia might not go 12-0 with Boise’s schedule but it would be close. And they would damn sure be favored in every single game. That’s the frustration. That Boise gets hyped into the National Championship by beating 3-4 decent teams.
Another frustration: The way ESPN continually hypes and shoves the Broncos down everyone’s throats.
OTOH, let me just state: I like Boise. I like what they have built at their program. They have gone out and built a real quality football team. And they tried to make the jump to a strong Mountain West conference. They just got screwed over by all the realignment/expansion stuff.
They can’t win a national championship because they never get invited to play in the game that decides it, even when they win every game they play.
Yes, that’s a problem. See Auburn circa 2004. It ain’t just the little guys that get shafted under the BCS system.
I’m a fan of some sort of playoff (although I would grudgingly accept a +1 system). But until that glacier melts, we are stuck arguing about scheduling and things.
The reason fans of big time college football don’t want to see Boise play in the national title game is that it gives (even more) incentive for teams to make their schedules as easy as possible. Why in the world would Alabama play Penn State if Boise can make the NC game playing only one ranked opponent? Why would Oklahoma play Florida State or Ohio State play Miami? If an undefeated Boise State gets rewarded with a NC shot over an elite one-loss team, you will those games stop immediately for every program that wants to win a national championship. And that would be a shame.
It would be great if we had an 8 or 12 team playoff. Last year you could have given Boise State, TCU, and Cincinnati all shots in a 12 team playoff, and you could have seen them all get smoked like Cincinnati did in the Sugar Bowl. (Okay, I could see one team pull one upset, but nobody is making it very far against the elite competition.) I am all for a playoff, and I really think you need a 12 team playoff to determine who is the best of the 120 teams in division 1-A.
Honestly, Boise might be a really good team. We’ll see how good the Hokies are. We’ll see how the season plays out. But when there are only two slots available to determine the best team in the country, I don’t think any team with a vastly inferior schedule should get a shot unless every other potentially elite team has lost two or three games. It just sends the wrong message.
If Boise goes undefeated, whoever they are up against for the NC game slots will have almost certainly beaten one or more teams better than Virginia Tech. They will have probably beaten several teams better than Oregon State. They will probably have played at least half their season against teams better than the second place WAC team. Why should they be punished for playing a tougher schedule? Isn’t the point to see who is the best team, not which team has the fewest losses?
Right. That’s what I said. Right?
I think we need playoffs.
At the start of the college football season, what teams have a shot at the title? Shouldn’t it be every single one?
Boise State will play anybody, any time, anywhere, yet cowardly A.D.'s continue to schedule cupcakes and junior colleges. Every program that has declined Boise’s invitation to play should be demoted to Division II (or whatever the hell it’s called now).
And yet with the current system, there is no downside to playing crappy directional schools. Don’t you think Va Tech would have rather played the mighty Southwestern Kentucky Pharmacological Institute Golden Retrievers than the Broncos?
My own Ducks shouldn’t be given any credit for their 72-0 win over New Mexico, yet they will be. At the same time, the current headline on Yahoo Sports implies Boise State might even go down in the rankings because they had to get “lucky” to beat the Hokies. And TCU won’t get credit for beating a ranked team because obviously the Beavers weren’t worthy of being ranked if they got beat by the Horned Frogs.
So fucked up…
Yeah, it’s funny having say, Miami fans, complaining about Boise’s easy schedule. Because, you know, Miami is dedicated to playing tough games every single week. I mean, this week Florida A&M held Miami to under 50 points, and nearly threatened to score at one point! If that’s not a tough game, what is?
OK, no actual Miami fans in this thread so far, so I’ll say Georgia is really showing some guts playing Louisiana-Lafayette. After all Louisiana-Lafayette even managed to score against Georgia (though they didn’t manage to keep Georgia under 50, so I guess overall they’re just about as tough an opponent as Florida A&M). See, that’s the kind of opponents Boise should be playing against, if they want to be taken seriously as a competitive football team.
You’re not being entirely fair. Everybody plays a few creampuffs. Boise State plays almost ALL creampuffs. Just because they played an opener against a tough team doesn’t mean they aren’t playing Wyoming, New Mexico State, Toledo, San Jose State, Louisiana Tech, Hawaii (yeah, they hung with USC for a while, but still), Idaho, and Utah State. I’m even giving Fresno State and Nevada credit for not necessarily being creampuffs.)
I’m 1000% for a playoff, but Boise State’s schedule this year does not argue their case.
Actually, their weak schedule makes a perfect case for playoffs. If they’re as good as they think they are, but are stuck in a weak conference and can’t get tough enough non-conference games, what better way to let them show their worth than a playoff?
Yeah, I meant their case within the BCS system. I’d love to see every team have to run the gauntlet if they want to win the title. Yes, even my beloved Crimson Tide.
Actually, I think it could. Consider: Alabama loses to Penn State next week (somehow…my fellow PSU fans are sweating bullets). They run the rest of the table, and at the end of the year we’re left with 12-0 Ohio State–who would have beaten Penn State–12-0 Boise State, and 12-1 Alabama. Who are the two BSC Championship game teams? I think in this case BSU’s win over VTech might push them over Alabama. Blacksburg has historically been one of the toughest places to get a road win, and Boise State goes in there against a top ten team and gets the W? While Alabama loses at home to an admittedly overrated Penn State squad? I think the question could be asked…
But then you’re left with the classic strength-of-schedule debate. Bama’s is tougher. There’s no doubt. Boise State gets in to the championship game based on beating VT alone? Talk about a travesty…