The Walking Dead; 4.16 "A" (open spoilers)

I didn’t happen to see her in the boxcar… Anyone else think it could have been Hot Pants Garcia on the barbie, and not Beth?

She wasn’t there? Well, dang. I like a little bit of eye-candy in my zombie apocalypse dammit.

Hot Pants was in the boxcar too.

I failed to see the Hill Billy scientist.

I saw Mullet in there. All present and accounted for.

Terminus is screwed!

Of course it’s cannibalism!

That’s why the beginning, with the bit about funneling the rabbit into the snare, is foreshadowing.

They have to be kept alive so as not to spoil.

I don’t know why they kept all the bones with some viscera attached in a big pile. Maybe for broth?

I agree that at this point, there ought to still be lots of viable stockpiles of canned food, and there are more sensible ways of farming for food, but Terminus is clearly about inviting people to dinner. That’s why it has so much very appealing advertising but so few people walking around.

Tyreese, Carol and Judith have not arrived yet. I’m sure they will figure heavily in the escape of Rick’s group and in the ass-kicking that Terminus has coming.

I think people are over estimating the amount of canned and preserved food just laying around in their vicinity. Cities and towns rely on weekly food deliveries to remain stocked so it’s going to be a quickly dwindling supply out there. ESPECIALLY at the rate the communities like Woodbury and the prison would have been eating them at their peaks. Eventually you are going to “farm out” your local area of easily acquired food (grocery stores, mini-marts, restaurants, etc) and then you have to enter homes and apartments and those are very risky at the least.

If terminus is a “bunkered” community they may have decided that runs are just too dangerous. They are clearly trying to grow some food on their own and are luring their protein source to them.

I imagine it was a thriving enclave like the prison or Woodbury and then they got raided and their stockpiles looted and a large portion of their population wiped out. The survivors got together and someone said something like " The ones that attacked us aren’t even human! They’re animals!" And then someone talked about the food situation and suggested eating people to survive–at first everyone else was grossed out and then someone else said “Why, they’re just animals right?”

Seems risky to advertise far and wide. They’re strong and organized enough to capture small groups, but the wider the area they advertise in, the more likely an even stronger raiding group will notice them.

It’s both!

But in re “too obvious”–this is NOT a subtly-plotted show. They go for the gross-out when they can. And how do you up the ante from the last ‘our group encounters a community’ arc (namely, the Governor’s Woodbury)? You make the new community even more exploitative and murderous than was the old one.

In grocery stores, yes. I agree.

But even though it’s risky to enter homes, the survivors all seem to have a system for doing that relatively safely. (Make noise, attract walkers within, dispatch them, and then forage.) And in the real world, lots of people keep six months’ or more worth of canned goods in their homes.

Do we even know the proportion of the population posited to be still alive in the world of the show? If it’s one person in a hundred, then there would be a good thirty-to fifty now-empty homes per person. If there are thirty homes per person, each with a three month supply of canned goods, then that’s more than seven years’ worth of canned goods lying around. (And those are probably conservative numbers.)

Yeah, but if people are your protein source, you can’t depend on enough stumbling into your slice of heaven.

Plus, they seemed to have plenty of armament based on how much ammo they wasted on herding our heroes to the box car.

Of course, ammo is only in short supply when it’s a plot point.

Okay, what amount of canned goods do you folks have at home?
I’ll go first 1 can green beans, 1 can hominy, 1 can blackeyed peas. Perhaps 1 can Hormel chilli.
Next?
:rolleyes:

Yeah, I got nothing like 3 months supply of anything. Maybe 6 cans of various vegetables, a few cans of tomato soup, and an unopened jar of olives. Looks like I’m going to be raiding the local Costco if the zombie virus breaks out.

With a quick search, it looks as though some solid statistics on ‘what’s in the average American kitchen’ might be found in a report by market research firm The NPD Group. However, the report is a product they sell, so all that’s available publicly is reports about the report, as here:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/13/whats-in-your-kitchen/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

I’m sure the information is available somewhere. Anecdotes from our little self-selected group of Dopers is unlikely to be statistically dependable.

I think they avoid going into places that were populous before the apocalypse. In this season one of the characters worries that the rail leading to Terminus goes right through a town. Also, we’ve seen them have trouble finding food when the search through homes these days. I assume that people ate the food that was in their homes following the apocalypse and other groups or individuals who survived ate some more in the following months/years.

I found this.

I’m way below average with my current stock, but 24 cans average per house is not going to equal a 3 month supply, especially when you consider that the majority of those cans provide little to no protein. Looks like you better learn to love canned corn in the ZA.

Well-searched!

(“Cantry”…ugh. Whoever coined that would surely have perished in the ZA by now, just through the machinations of basic cosmic justice. :mad:)

One would hope so.

My favorite scrounged meal: they broke into a house, dispatched a couple of zombies, found two cans of dog food in a cupboard (which Carl was going to open, but Rick tossed away) - and in the living room, perched on the back of a chair: an owl! Which Daryl dispatched with his crossbow.

So now when Mr. Salinqmind says, “what do we have to eat around here?” and I have nothing, I say “two cans of dog food and an owl”. :stuck_out_tongue:

True. Subtlety is not this show’s strong suit.

As has been pointed out, protein is the problem (as it is today, actually - you can easily get lots of carbs and fat, but protein is hard to come by).

We probably have a couple week’s worth of food in our house. I can see where the house-to-house scrounging would be pretty well dried up by now.

Supper’s at salinq’s house! :smiley:

Call me crazy but what’s wrong with a vegetarian diet?

A nutritionally complete vegetarian diet would be fine. Just vegetables though will leave you protein deficient. If you had lots of canned beans you’d be in better shape with those canned veggies.