The Walking Dead; 4.16 "A" (open spoilers)

Ok - you’re crazy.

Well, there’sthis…

Arguably, these characters are having to exist in “state of nature”…A healthy vegetarian diet is going to take A LOT more work.

It wasn’t a bad episode except for all the flashbacks, which were just annoying filler. The fight with the gang was pretty intense. Carol and Tyrese can’t assault a force that large, but could show up and free them from the boxcar in the dark of night. I’m not totally buying cannibalism, but perhaps that will be the jump-the-shark moment for the show.

Here it is, Sunday night, and I am feeling a big empty hole in my little universe, emanating from my TV. Wait till October? that stinks. :mad:

Game of Thrones, baby!

Right there with you.

We don’t have HBO. :frowning:

We are, however, watching “X-Files” on Netflix, to be followed by “Breaking Bad”. Old School, baby! :smiley:

I fired up Silence of the Lambs for that adrenaline jolt we all crave.

I think we should have a Zombie movie study group which watches a classic zombie movie on sunday nights then discusses them. Ok, I don’t really think we should have one but if we did I’d surely participate.

That’s a fantastic idea! I would also participate whole-heartedly.

Since “Zombieland” has shown up on Netflix, I nominate that movie for our first study for next Sunday.

I’m up for it. I may not be able to keep up every week, but I’ll try. It’d be nice to put together a bit of a list in advance so I can view ahead during breaks in work.

I’m in. I’m a Zombie-geek.

I’m up for Zombieland first, as well. Cool movie.

Excellent. I’m in too.

I’m up for it! Another Zombiphile here myself! Ya’ll have to see Juan of the Dead.

That’s a good idea. Why doesn’t the person who suggested the sunday movie start the discussion thread sunday night then pass the torch to another poster who will suggest their movie for us to watch etc. It’d be good if the movie is available for streaming somewhere too.

Zombieland is cool.
Except for the twinkie ™ fixation.

That was one thing that stuck out with me. They were burning off an awful lot of ammo in a time when no more is being made. Allowing of course that they might have had access to a military or survivalist cache with millions of rounds in storage.

The first thing about Terminus though. Does that lady just mane the grill from dawn til dusk cooking up spare ribs waiting for visitors to show up?

Cannibalism is too obvious, there’s another twist or two coming if the writers are worth their word processors.

Just around to watching this the other night, and I have a theory…

I think they’re cannibals, but not because people are their main source of food. Rather, they think that eating people gives them some kind of strength. For example, the zombies eat people, and they don’t die unless you destroy their brains. Maybe these people think that eating others will make them immortal. Or, they think that the zombie virus everyone is carrying is fatal over time, but eating people prevents it from progressing. Maybe they even have evidence of that.

I also like the other possible theory, that forcing newcomers to eat people breaks their spirit or binds them to the group so they are no longer outsiders.

They don’t seem like wild-eyed crazies, but they don’t seem particularly happy, either. No one except the welcoming guy was smiling. The place was very quiet - almost subdued. Maybe everyone there is eating people because they think they have to in order to survive, but they’re not happy about it.

I was re-watching this on the DVR to check out the details for this post, and came across this conversation:

Michonne: “Why do you let people in?”
Alex: “When people become a part of us, we become stronger.”

That’s kind of odd phrasing. When people become a part of us? Why not “There’s safety in numbers”? Or “Large groups have a better chance of survival”? I know that’s a thin reed, but it could be a clever writer dropping a hint as to what’s going on.

Other details: They are definitely being herded by the gunmen on the roofs, and the doors they go through are marked ‘A’. As they are running, there are other shipping containers that contain yelling people. So there’s some kind of intentional system here. They’re separating people into groups of containers intentionally. That suggests maybe experiments, or some kind of cult madness. Or, I guess it could just be an inventory method… (-: But given that the show is called ‘A’, I have to think there’s some kind of significance to that.

The candle room: On the floor a whole bunch of names are written in chalk or white paint, and each name has a little shrine. Some are bigger than others. Some have religious statues, others don’t. One has a wine bottle, one has a doll, another a soccer ball… My guess is that these are members of the group who died, and each ‘shrine’ has something that belonged to that person.

And written around the walls of the room are the words “NEVER AGAIN”. Then it says, “NEVER TRUST”. Then “WE FIRST, ALWAYS” So perhaps at some point Terminus was a real sanctuary, but the people who set it up got bushwhacked or double-crossed by a group they turned in, and a lot of them were killed, including the children. So now it’s war against anyone outside.

Hmm… here’s a thought: What do you do when you’re worried about the people outside banding together into a large group and overrunning you? You lure them in one at a time and kill them or assimilate them. Maybe they’re clearing the neighborhood of people as a defense strategy. Perhaps the ones that come in alone get to survive, but the ones that arrive in groups are herded into the containers and used as food, or perhaps released individually and forced to eat human meat to separate them psychologically from the others so they can be assimilated instead of killed.

Remember, the governor did the same thing - individuals were allowed into Woodbury, while people in groups were hunted down and killed. Too much risk of a rival faction inside the walls.

While they are in the room, Michonne says, “I don’t think they are trying to kill us.” Rick’s response is hard to make out, but it sounds like he said, “No, they’re rigging their feet”. Which makes no sense. I wonder if he meant to say ‘feast’?

The door they are herded through from the candle room also has an ‘A’ painted beside it. And the train car they are herded into also has an ‘A’ painted on it. Clearly a system of some sort. However, the other door that was closed did not have a letter beside it, and the containers with the people inside yelling help don’t appear to be marked. So there’s no “B”, “C” etc. Just an ‘A’ train car, and everyone else. Makes you want to sing 'Take the A train". I wonder if that was an intentional in-joke?

All in all though, the clues could be consistent with a group just being ultra-cautious about newcomers after being nearly massacred. They could still be decent people - at least by the standards of the zombie apocalypse. But probably not. They do seem like intelligent, careful people though. Not a bunch of wild-eyed crazies.

Well, the producer of the show said viewers should re-watch it two or three times because there are lots of clues, for what it’s worth.