The Walking Dead; 5.01 "No Santuary" (open spoilers)

That was an homage to Night of the Living Dead which did have some zombies using items (the rock to break the car window at the funeral, the little girl killing her mother with a trowel).

I thought it was Carol saying “you have to come with me” that dissuaded Rick from going right back. Then he reunited with his baby, blah, blah.

But yeah, now there is a real whackjob after them whose whole universe was centered on Terminus, which is now up in flames and probably not recoverable. And his mom is a zombie, or got eaten. Both.

In case anyone else missed it like I did, AMC decided to put the post-credits scene on Youtube so we wouldn’t complain too much.

It’s nice to have the good zombie show back, after suffering through a month of that awful one on Syfy. (Yeah, I could just not watch, I suppose, but not like a lot else on fridays).

So was that Rick’s watch Carol found?

As a long time fan of Carol, I feel like this episode was pandering directly to me. And I’m OK with that.

I thought it was the watch Herschel gave Glenn as a sign he, Herschel, was okay with Glenn & Maggie’s pairing. Which (assuming she knows Herschel is dead) would move her from I’m here to rescue my friends-mode to I am going to kill every one of these motherfuckers and their dogs, if any-mode.

Herschel gave Glenn his pocket watch. Rick sees it when they first arrive. That is why he jumps on the head Bad Guy with both feet and an ACP. :slight_smile:

I bow to your superior attention to detail. I was distracted by the manliest of the manly arts: making fudge brownies.

What means this acronym ACP?

The sense I got from his “speech” was that he knows exactly Jack Shit about the epidemic. Throw out some technical-sounding jargon, and make it sound like you know what you’re talking about. I’ve seen firefighters and cops do it in front of people. I’m an EMT, and I’VE done it. A lot of times, when there’s some chaos that has people confused or on edge, someone who sounds like an authority gets listened to, even if they have no idea. It’s a textbook case of “when in doubt, make it sound convincing.”

Automatic Colt Pistol.

There’s too much chance of injury. If an extra, directed to trip on the tracks, broke his or her teeth in the fall, the budget would could have been hit with thousands of dollars’ worth of reconstructive dentistry.

Of course this doesn’t mean that the scene couldn’t have been written so as to avoid the inconsistency (walkers negotiate tracks easily, but walk into pike-fences). But that would have taken time and care, and that’s not going to happen with this show.

Similarly, the implausibility of the “line of people wait patiently to be conked on the head and die bleeding in the trough” scene could have been fixed. For example, the writers could have set up a threat that would ensure docility: had one of the group placed in eyesight of the trough-kneelers, perhaps, while a Termite stood there with blade ready to slice off bits in the most pain-inducing way, if the kneelers fail to wait quietly.

But this isn’t *Breaking Bad *or Fargo or The Sopranos; viewers don’t come to this show for flawlessly-worked-out, meticulously credible story-telling.

I wonder how the Nazis did it. For a while they were taking people out into fields and shooting them.

Yeah, that issue (them being docile) does not seem problematic. There are plenty of examples of groups of people being led to very imminent deaths and behaving in a docile manner. Heck, the ISIS executions are pretty good examples.

Are you referring to the mass killings known as the Holocaust? If so: weren’t most of those “people go quietly to their deaths” situations due to the people having no idea they were about to be killed? (Gas chambers disguised as showers, etc.)

That psychological element wouldn’t apply in the case of the people lined up in front of the trough. They knew they were about to be killed.

It’s been reported that the commonly-used tactic is to lead the victim out to the killing place and have him read out a statement every day for days on end–expose him, over and over again, to the fear that he’s about to die. By the 25th day or so, the adrenaline isn’t really flowing anymore. It’s become routine.

At first they put everyone in a truck, took them out to a field and began shooting them with rifles.

Not all. Many were shot into mass graves. The same thing happened in Cambodia and other massacres over the years.

That’s entirely possible - that he was a low-level worker at a virology lab, not some kind of high-powered virologist.

People freeze when faced with imminent death, too - that is not uncommon.

Add to that the fact that Rick visibly did NOT freeze: he was trying to work his makeshift shiv out of his boot.

I can see it both ways. Sometimes you panic and fight to the last breath, other times you realize there’s absolutely nothing you can do and just close your eyes and say a prayer and hope it’s over quick.

What’s really sick is how the termites led people into the slaughtering room a group at a time and deliberately let them know what was happening. That’s just causing undue terror and suffering on purpose. Maybe they did it that way to harden the killers, but we generally don’t do that to livestock. Generally. Sick, sick, sick. Lead them into a separate slaughtering room one at a time.