The Walking Dead; 5.01 "No Santuary" (open spoilers)

An associate of mine thought it amusing to take a hog out of the pen and kill him in front of the others. Perhaps the termites are fucked up in the same way.

Walking Dead does have a few reflective things to say about humanity, doesn’t it?

Her shooting Denise Crosby in the leg damned near turned me straight for a moment.

Your hatred of Tasha Yar runs very deep, doesn’t it?

It bugged me. I completely understand why Carol did that, and why she let the walkers devour Mary alive, but it crossed a line, as did Rick’s decision to let the butchers turn. The two producers later shown on Talking Dead were correct in that there were intimations of Rick’s group slowly becoming evil in the same manner as the Terminus crew. (I refuse to call them termites.)

During the third season, when Rick led an away team (heh) to Woodbury to rescue Maggie and Glenn, there’s a scene in which they are forced to kill a crazy guy in his shack; they then feed his corpse to the walkers to make good their escape. A poster whose name I do not recall commented on the group’s growing brutality and immorality. I countered that under the circumstances what they did was unavoidable and, however horrible, not a sign that they were losing their moral compass. I was wrong.

Tragically, Temple Grandin was one of the first casualties.

I saw it as a war crime, but not in the same league as the calculated murder to which the Terminusites had resorted.

It would be an interesting thread to debate how Terminus could have kept from becoming Cannibal City. I was trying to figure out if there is a way that you could be strong enough to keep another takeover from happening but compassionate enough to take in refugees. Rick’s Castaways certainly had to worry about it when they were in the prison and getting newbies.

I’d trust a mixed race group of men, women and children. I wouldn’t trust of group of mean looking men.

Easy. :slight_smile:

If I had a fixed base and was trying to establish some semblance of normality, I’d be looking into restoration of pre-disaster touchstones to make assimilation of newcomers easier. For people who used to be in the military, set up an militia of sorts with some form of military-style discipline. Put aside time and space for conventional religious worship. Have movie nights showing popular pre-disaster films and TV shows.

Radical departures from normality, such as any suggestion the militia types should be in charge, or that the disaster means new religions are needed, or signs of true insanity like Jennifer being better than Bailey, means a bullet in the head.

That’s actually giving him more credit than I did. My impression was that he had some menial job that had nothing to do with the virus itself. For example, he could be a janitor, and say “I work for such-and-such laboratory, where they were studying the virus and how to reverse it.”

He makes himself sound like he was involved, let the others infer that he knows more than he really does, and he plays it up so that they go out of their way to keep him alive.

I guess Rick pretty much has to accept Carol back into the group now.

You’ll hear my screaming if he says “thanks for all you did, but you’re still exiled.”

She might take off on her own, though. Hope she doesn’t. She’s my fave right now. I was on her side when she offed the two dying-soon-to-be zombies, although I also thought the young crazy girl did it and Carol was covering.

It was a awesome episode but I was disappointed they will not spend two or three episode in Terminus and the writer wants the story to move on so fast.

After the experience of needing two episodes to get through a single day on the farm, I’m happy to have a faster pace. They didn’t really need to go in depth with Terminus, it provided a contrast to their experience of the prison. Terminus is what they could have become if they had defeated the Governor while maintaining the integrity of the prison.

I get the sense he’s regretted forcing her out for a while now, and is glad as hell that she’s back and badder than ever.

Terminators?

You’ve given the militia types guns, and they may have a similar but differing opinion, if you catch my drift.
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Did* you* do that?
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That’s not necessarily a plot hole. Milton’s experiments could’ve failed because of a number of different design flaws; including him simply not have a large enough sample size.

Just noticed the typo in the thread title.

And his being rather dumb.
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