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Tyler James, CM Punk, & Yvette Nicole Brown are on Talking Dead. Discussion of the comics is allowed, but spoilers from the comics should be boxed. Anything on Talking Dead or the previews is fair game.
Someone needs to learn about the physics of falling objects…
Yeah, I think that woulda landed engine first (or maybe over rotated and ended up on the hood). Those cargo vans don’t have much going on in the back. Good thing they had their seat belts on. When they started rocking the van (which I don’t think would have moved it the way it was sitting BTW), I just assumed they were over water.
It was funny, at the beginning of the episode I was thinking that it’s been a long time since Daryl’s had a cigarette.
Especially when their POV shot already showed them rotating forward pretty hard. That episode was full of bad moments like that. Like how did all the skywalk campers die simultaneously in their bags and tents?
How does Carol get hit by the car? In the ZA if you are so ignorant of your surroundings that you can get hit by the one moving car out there, you don’t deserve to live.
Carol going gun first, then backing through the chained up door…
Carol asserting that she should get in the van because she was lighter, then ALSO getting in and also going to the front of the van.
The sudden horde on the bridge, which was so poorly staged that at one point, they just showed a series of random shots of zombies without showing what was happening to the characters.
The bookshelf pinning an adult thing… There is no way that a person would struggle to budge a bookshelf like that.
Ugh. Back to stupidity.
There appeared to be stab marks on the sleeping bags, I worked on the assumption that someone happened upon a group of survivors in that hallway and killed them, they then turned and were trapped in the sleeping bags.
That was stupid and even if they didn’t show someone tracking them, it was pretty clear something was going to happen. At the very least they shouldn’t have shown them so carefully going through the door the first time so we’d have something to compare it to.
Yeah, um, that. When Daryl hopped in I thought the plan was for him to stay at the back and her to slide to the front. That actually made sense.
That thing looked like it must have weighed 600 pounds*, even Daryl was struggling to lift it up. Then when he dropped it, it sounded like they used their normal Zombie squishing sound effect when it hit the ground. They might as well have hit the Wilhelm Scream button.
*ETA, I mean to imply that how it looked, even a rich person expensive solid wood bookshelf shouldn’t have required that much work to wrangle. Yeah, Noah has a bad leg, but he should have been able to move it easier than that and Daryl should have been able to lift it with less effort. They made it look like they were trying to move a safe.
Worst episode of the season so far. 58 minutes of talking about “how we were before and how we are now” and rush to catch up to the current plot line.
Also, whose body was Daryl burning near the beginning? The one after which Carol said “thank you”
The adult and child walkers. I guess they were supposed to be victims of abuse staying at the shelter… who stayed until they died?
Seemed like a bad time to light a signal fire to me.
Do bicycles not exist in this universe? I haven’t watched the show closely.
I loved that they did all that to make it look so substantial, and then it lifts up on one side when Norman Reedus steps on the other!
Agreed. It’s been strong so far, so I’ll cut them some slack. But hell, that was a slow walk to a quick point at the end we knew was coming, one way or the other.
It’s too bad they couldn’t have interwoven the Hospital peoples story more with Daryl and Carol, rather than watch them talk about how much they’ve changed for 45 mins.
When they were in the office with the water dispenser, Carol wisely suggests that they should take the water. She dispenses about enough to fill a smallish cup, then just stops & they walk away. Amazing. If they weren’t going to take the water, maybe use some of it to clean their faces?
There are countless scenes like this one. 1) Not necessary to their survival (apparently, they had plenty of water already) 2) Not necessary to the larger plot 3) Don’t further develop their characters
The “hallway campers” was another classic example. They don’t bother searching around for weapons or food or water - so they must’ve had plenty. Nothing is contributed to the larger plot. We learn nothing about their characters. It’s just another ho-hum-so-boring day in the ZA.
I thought it was one of the best episodes of WD. I like Daryl and Carol. More like this, please. The outdoor shots looked authentic. That falling van sequence was awesome. I dig the single-focus episodes. Please don’t do one with Rick and Caaarrrl (hoping next week isn’t that)
One of the best episodes so far. It had atmosphere, character exploration and development, filled in back story and made progress on a plot line for this season and emotionally satisfying.
Only two nitpicks for zombie world ‘realism’- I would taken more water and/or washed my face in the executive office and I would’ve taken that nice pillow. However, I think it does show how comfortable they’ve become in their new reality. They are no longer scrabbling to survive. They know they’ll find resources so they don’t have to frantically grab what they can. Their expectations on how much food, water, comfort etc is needed have radically changed.
ETA: what DrForrester said about washing their faces! Hah!
I liked it, mostly for the tone and mood.
The one bit of stupidity that took me out of the show has been mentioned: When Carol says the van is unstable, let me do it I’m lighter, then they both get in. The rest of the stuff mentioned didn’t really bother me. (I also thought Daryl was going to stay in the back to weigh it down. But no.)
I chuckled when they explicitly showed Carol take off her blood and guts poncho after the Terminus encounter. During that entirely pointless and very short scene, I started counting how many episodes have aired this season to see if this episode might have been shot after the season premiere. As in, was that scene included solely in response to complaints that Carol got magically clean after covering herself in zombie guts? hehheh.
While this episode wasn’t my favorite (I agree, way too little plot development) I think some of these criticisms are just silly. It is not a documentary. They don’t show them crapping either.
So carol filled up her canteen, so what? Should there be a 15 minute cut scene where they explore how they transport water?
And Darryl did search the hallway campers. he unzipped at least one and checked his pockets. Again, should there be a 20 minute scene where they meticulously search every single camper and then discuss the results?
This is the only show I’ve ever seen that draws such strange criticisms.
I’m just glad to see characters out of the woods and in an urban environment for a change.
Speaking of which. I was impressed by the shots of Darryl and Carol on the bridge with the burnt and destroyed building behind them. Since the shot was too wide for there to have been a green screen behind them, I assume that they digitally “dressed” the real buildings to make them look like that. But how do they do that if there is camera movement and the actors are passing in front of those buildings?
No, no. They don’t need to take 20 minutes to show them searching the dead bodies for supplies. You’ve completely missed the point. With most TV programs and movies, they are desperate to make every shot count. Every scene must contribute to the overall plot or character development or the the development of the “world” or something.
This show seems to have so very little plot, so very little character development that they can waste opportunity after opportunity on scenes that do absolutely nothing.
You could very easily re-edit the complete series into about 1/2 the number of episodes & not feel like you’ve missed anything important.
You could never do that with Breaking Bad or The Wire or The Shield. Maybe a scene here, maybe a subplot there. But, you’d never imagine cutting whole episodes because they were pointless. With the Walking Dead, yeah, absolutely.
When Carol & Daryl were following the car into the city the passenger exited the car then came back into the scene & tossed a bicycle and a leg or something leg like out of his way.
I hoped he’d put the bike into the back of the car…
When Tyler was pinned under the bookcase and the walkers were at the door I heard disembodied voices singing “Everybody ha-aaaa-ates Chris!”
Would have been great to have a Chris Rock voiceover as well.
Well, it certainly showed how bloody boring the ZA could be until you ran into the next nutjob.
Not one of my favorites; we could’ve had half as much Carol and Daryl talking ***and ***advanced the plot a bit.