Isn’t FOX the same station that broadcast that alien autopsy video?
You’d think that fact alone would be enough to cause even those with no free will of their own to consider who is bringing them this show.
Isn’t FOX the same station that broadcast that alien autopsy video?
You’d think that fact alone would be enough to cause even those with no free will of their own to consider who is bringing them this show.
Did anyone happen to tape this monstrosity (either time it aired) and can they provide a list of sponsors? I’d like to know who to knock off my grocery list.
Thanks.
Gee, poor me, I missed it.
What is the supposed proof that it was all a hoax? Do they actually think it was all done like “Capricorn One” and filmed on a secret soundstage?
ROFL!
I’m glad they are re-running it. It’s an interesting experiment, seeing how gullible the American public is. After they play this special a few times, I’d like to see how many people believe it’s true.
I never saw this program, I have NO record of seeing any ads for this program. IT DIDN’T HAPPEN! THE SHOW NEVER AIRED! And YOU are all in on the conspiracy! COMMIES! Stay away from me!
::UncleBill puts his tinfoil hat back on and goes back to oiling his AK-47 with bacon grease::
Remarkably, yes. In fact, Capricorn One was used as an argument that it was a fake, a la “Look how similar Cap 1 was to Apollo, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A FAKE.” No mention that the movie was made 10 years later and was undoubtedly heavily based on the real-life missions.
And it completely ignores the fact that Capricorn One got so many scientific details wrong:
A Saturn V is used in the movie. The Saturn V was not powerful enough to carry people to Mars. It also could not carry the ENORMOUS amount of supplies needed for a mission to Mars, which could take as long as three years.
The LEM was designed to fly in a vacuum; it is not aerodynamic. Mars has an atmosphere; a very thin one, but enough to make it impossible to fly a LEM-like vehicle there. It also could not have carried all the supplies needed by two men for a long surface stay. Also, the implication is that the third man would have remained in orbit above Mars for months completely alone.
Astronauts are shown using the Apollo-type space-suits to walk on Mars. These suits would be too heavy to use for very long on Mars because its gravity is stronger than lunar gravity. Also, these suits had so many moving parts, they were good for only a few days of use because of dust contamination. Martian suits would have to function for months without fail. (I got these details about the problems facing a possible Mars mission from a recent article written by James Oberg for American Legion magazine that I saw here in the library.)
They forgot to allow for the delay in radio messages. Depending on how far away Mars is, it can take ten minutes or more for a signal to travel the distance. Yet they show Mission Control and the astronauts communicating in real time.
What I’m pointing out here is that the people trying to use Capricorn One as evidence for an Apollo hoax haven’t examined it very closely.
Surprised the nutbags on FOX didn’t mention the theory that the “framing” of OJ Simpson was NASA’s payback for his making the movie. A theory which I’ve heard people exposing from time to time. Let’s NOT get into a debate as to whether or not the Juice actually DID the crime. That whole issue was done to death about 5 minutes into the slow speed chase.
I didn’t catch it the first time, but I tried to watch it this time. I failed. I just couldn’t watch through the whole thing, when there were better, non-ignorant shows on. Plus I’ve heard the arguments all before, so I didn’t really miss much.
What I find amazing is that, even though I haven’t seen the movie Capricorn One, the footage they showed on the Fox show convinced me that it was not nearly as convincing as the moon landing (which was real.) When the guy jumps out of the Mars lander, his knees bend all the way to the ground. This is what would happen in Earth’s gravity, and if you slow down the footage to half-speed, it seems like the person on Mars has much more inertia than they actually do. On the other hand, with the moon landing footage, their knees hardly bend at all, which would be consistent with what would actually happen in a 1/6 gravity environment (and, likewise, if you were to attempt it on Earth, and slow down the footage, you might injure yourself trying to jump out of the lander without bending your knees.)
Then there’s the whole “speeding up the footage makes it look like normal speed” argument, which is easily debunked, because you can see the dust falling at the same speed as everything else. In 1969, the best they could do is an additive optical composite with sped-up footage. But then you’d be able to see huge flaws…namely, any shadows cast by the dust would have to be hand-animated. And if you’ve ever seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit, you know how hard it is to make realistic shadows. And Roger Rabbit was the 80s. In 1969, there would be no way to make the dust look realistic.
I plan to write an e-mail to Fox requesting that they never re-air that special. I’m also going to try to submit an editorial to my school newspaper which debunks all of the claims made in the show, so I can do my part in stomping out ignorance.
Actually watched that silly movie tonight for the hell of it. Noticed a couple of things in it, that haven’t been mentioned so far, and do add to the argument that the lunar landing was real. One is, that during one of the shots where they were showing the lander on the faked Mars surface as the camera pulled back you saw multiple shadows of the lander on the back drop used for the Martian sky, as well as multiple shadows on the ground. Another was that there was telemetry information which didn’t match up (which is how Elliot Gould’s character figured out that something fishy was going on). Third, the actors never seemed to be covered in dirt in the Martian scenes, which in all likelihood, they should have been because the Lunar astronauts were positively COVERED in dirt when they left the surface of the Moon. Fourth, the film has the astronauts (except for OJ, since his lines were mainly monosyllabic) talk about how difficult it would be for them to maintain the lie when they were released (which, of course, is no doubt why they were supposed to be killed off when the mission was over). Finally, in defense of those who attack the film’s generally crappy appearance, I have to point out that they made the thing for only $5 Million, which is nothing by today’s standards, but even back then, it was a cheap film, so they really couldn’t do anything expensive like build models of what might be a practical looking ship. Not to mention the fact that those of us who were alive during the time of the Apollo missions would see the Apollo stuff and accept it (To be honest, not completely) as a kind of cinematic shorthand.
Next week, on Fox:
“Who wants to marry a multi-autopsied Alien from the Moon?”
Oy.
My parents were subjected to this crappy pseudodocumentary yesterday when they visited family friends. Rather than show them the slides from their last RV trip (yawn), they showed my parents this looooverrrrlyyyyy FOX special… The male half of this pair, a retired physics prof, was “intrigued” by the “possibilities”.
Thankfully, my mom fell asleep watching it, and my dad realized that this kind of special ensured his job security (psychiatry).
Oh - and Elvis is well, and alive, and living next door.
E.