While not precisely countering your position
this is from book 1, which is in the Torah, which is a source of law. It may not literally enjoin recreaional sex, but it is awfully close.
No, that has a whole different explanation in addition to the sperm-wasting issue.
The point here is that Onan, and by extension any man similarly situated, is specifically commanded to marry his brother’s widow; the convention is called “levirate marriage”. This was because this was a horribly patriarchal society and a woman without a living father, husband or son was in very dire straits.
Note also that there was no such thing as making a will; the law dictated which of your relatives had priority in inheriting your stuff, regardless of how you felt about them. And for inheritance purposes, any son that Onan might have with Er’s widow would be considered Er’s son, and would inherit all of Er’s loot, which in the absence of such a son would go to…Onan. You see the potential conflict of interest here?
So Onan isn’t just violating the law about being fruitful and multiplying, he’s attempting to screw this woman out of money by failing to screw her literally. Again, this situation wasn’t uncommon in ancient Hebrew society, so you can see the need for a good strong cautionary tale to put the fear of God in the men involved.
This thread has taken a strange turn considering the title and how it started.
Aren’t you paying attention? They are using religion to condemn coming into heads!
Likewise a lot of the blue films of the period featured a lot of fellatio for the shock value.
Yeah, exactly how old are some of your grandmothers?!
both of my grandmothers are as old as anyone ever gets
Well, one of my grandmothers was born before Germany was a country, so she’d be a good one to ask. There might be a language barrier, though.
You got a biblical cite for this?
Because it isn’t true. Adultery is very wrong, to Jews and Christians alike- and generally we consider it wrong even today. Sex outside marriage is frowned upon, aka “fornication” but exactly what that means has been debated.
Sex during marriage is a Good Thing, and not just to make kids. And remember, Jesus Himself said nothing about fornication, and even said Adultery should be forgiven. The rants about Sex are pretty much Paul, who thought Jesus and the Kingdom was coming soon.
I was talking about masturbation and non-vaginal kinds of sex (within marriage), not about adultery. But it has been pointed out that I was apparently wrong about even that.
With the possible caveat that the adultery commandment originally applied only to women. I have heard this but am not certain it is the case, that the commandment about coveting (“thy neighbor’s wife”) is the one that applies to the guys.
Original poster (OP) here. WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING TO THIS THREAD?
Just taking her out for a test drive. Mind if we take a left here?
I agree with how to handle this, but is this an actual question that gets asked? I apparently hang out with a different group of women you do.
That is not what the lady on the Thread Positioning System device is telling us to do.
My sincerest apologies.
Trying to get us back on track:
There is an African American accent.
(and before I’m flamed, let me make it clear that it is not universal. Nor do I know from whence it comes)
Human muscle, if properly cooked, is perfectly edible.
The Nazis were responsible for the first anti-smoking campaign, being ahead of their time in the late 1930s
When watching a TV show about a nice hooker or courtesan. My wife was admiring the costumes on a period drama and …
Hitler loved dogs, motherhood and was a sort of vegetarian (today, we’d call him a pescatarian). But although Hitler hated smoking, I do not think the Nazis were anti-smoking.
Probably equally edible cooked or not.
Stolen from Saturday TV Funhouse: “Come back here with my thread!”
I must respectfully disagree.