Oh, I also liked some of the small references to other movies.
My favorite was when Obi-Wan shot Grievous with a blaster and threw it away calling it an “uncivilized weapon”, referencing, of course Alec Guiness in Ep 4 calling the lightsaber a civilized weapon for an uncivilized time (IIRC).
“Cackling. This whole little diversion would be much more satisfying if I were cackling. Can’t give things away, though. I’d better wait till next time.”
-Joe
Ya know, the whole “civilized weapon” thing strikes me as a bit hypocritical. Obi-Wan cuts some dude’s arm off at the Mos Eisley cantina, which isn’t very civilized. The bit with the blaster was still funny though.
BTW, was I the only one who went a little googly eyed when they showed people walking into the musical/opera/bubble presentation thing. There was a pretty well-endowed woman/alien in a white dress. Wonder how that looks in IMAX.
I’m not saying that the light side is stronger, only that the two are balanced. The Dark side is good at the whole murder/conquest thing, while the Light side is good at the opposite. To call the former “strong” and the latter “effete” is arbitrary. Or, as Yoda said: “Wars not make one great.”
Well, there’s clearly some indeterminacy in the battles. Obi-Wan loses to Dooku (badly) twice, Anakin defeats Dooku pretty easily, but then Obi-Wan beats Anakin fair and square. Was Anakin taking a dive? Of course not. It’s probably that Anakin would win that fight, say, 60% of the time (for example).
Likewise, just because Yoda loses to Palpatine (with enemy reinforcements arriving, by the way) doesn’t mean he’s weaker, just that he lost that particular fight.
Except for clapping at the beginning and end my theater was completely silent.
The Twi’Lek in the white dress being the exception. There were a whole lot of, “wow, would you look at that” comments when she showed up…
-Joe
Hee.
“Now, let me see how creepily i can say’Good, good!’ … That worked well. We’ll keep that.”
Yep - good call on the Death Star quotes. I’d forgotten those lines. Better re-watch ANH!
“I like this dark and strangely lit theme, with the red robed guards standing stock still. I shall have to improve on that motif.”
VADER: Don’t be too proud of this technological photoplay you’ve constructed. The ability to control a medium for 20 years is insignificant next to the power of a good Chick Flick.
They are suspicious of Palpatine, but they are definitely not suspicious of the clone army they find on Kamino. They never question its origins, its funding, its reason for existing. They just take it, no questions asked.
Which is why they are morons.
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Best line in the whole movie.[/uqote] 
Best line? Try worst delivery.
Natalie can now proudly inherit the title of Worst Star Wars Actor. 3 films with Padme certainly outweigh 1 film with Little Ani (particularly since she’s supposed to be the cause for The Fall).
Horrible.
And the opposite is what? Running/protecting a competent government? Protecting the people from murder/conquest? It apparently isn’t good at that. I think you’ve fallen for the whole Lucas shtick - if I say it’s stronger (or even equall), without really showing or defining how, people will just believe it, because it fits with the whole, “Good guys win somehow” ethos.
It’s the opposite of arbitrary. It’s observing the movies, and what actually happens in them, and making a judgment based on what actually happens.
As I said, I’ll give you that Obi-Wan (who beat the crap out of his own apprentice who had far less experience) and Windu (unless the Emperor took a fall, which is quite likely in my opinion) are possible exceptions. Neither of them are, in my opinion, very strong exceptions to the rule that the Dark Side generally appears to kicks the Light Side’s ass in the Star Wars movies.
Sure, maybe he would have beaten him on another day. But I don’t know that. All I know is that he lost that fight.
I gotta agree with you there. I know Miss Portman’s on record as saying that she doesn’t like the Star Wars franchise, couldn’t wait to get out, space operas are dumb, yadda yadda…
…but honey, DO YOUR JOB. Which includes, I believe, somewhere in the fine print, NOT SUCKING.
Oh yeah – I forgot to mention that the scene where Yoda brushes off Palpatine’s two red-robed guards was absolutely fantastic. The whole theater erupted in applause.
I have to disagree with your statement that the Jedi aren’t good at competent government. From the movies we have:
Seems to me the Jedi come out on top in the long run.
My take is that an individual Sith gains power faster than a Jedi, because he is willing to do anything to gain power. However, using the Dark Side heavily takes a physical toll, and clearly the Sith are too competitive to survive in large numbers, so it balances out overall.
But that’s exactly the point. Hearing of Padme’s death is what really kills Anakin Skywalker completely. His love for her was the only really good left in him, since he had given himself over to hating everyone else. What you’re seeing there are the death throes of Anakin Skywalker.
Vader’s “NOOOOOO!” seems destined to be used in commercials for Happy Meals or something worse:
"Available for a limited time only, offer void in West Virginia, Idaho, New Hampshire, and The Death Star. (cut to Vader: “NOOOOOOOOO!”)
I know what you mean. I was waiting to see Maala, Itchy, and Lumpy. Well, maybe not Lumpy, because he wouldn’t have been born yet.