[QUOTE=RedFury]
Sorry, Lib, but that was right into my wheelhouse and with little velocity and/or spin behind it. AKA a perfect set-up.
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Not to worry. You and I have come to an understanding. Doncha go gettin’ all soft on me. Keep your passion. Just aim it where it’s deserved, be that at me or anyone else.
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
He is well known for thread shitting,…
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I post in lots of forums. I ask and answer questions in General Questions. I debate and witness in Great Debates. I comment on entertainment aesthetics in Cafe Society. I conduct and participate in polls in Humble Opinions. And in the Pit, I often rant and lash out. So, my question is, why the interest in me in particular? You haven’t said a word, for example, about Klaatu’s early hijack and shit-slinging in this thread before I even arrived. I don’t even participate in most Pit threads.
More revisionism. As the debate wound down, I mentioned in passing that it made no difference to me anyway because of the likelihood my illnesses would consume me in a couple years’ time. My poor health was already well known — hence the “Lib is off his meds” cajoling (which, incidentally, you’ve never condemned.) The usual suspects ran with that ball, and made a big deal out of it. I said then and reiterate now that I want no pity. It’s just atoms, and atoms aren’t real.
Yes, after my e-mails went unanswered for nearly a week. But I was not banned, and left voluntarily for six months or so.
Frankly, you’ve become more annoying than PRR, at least to me personally. You seem to have a fixation on me and my affairs that is downright creepy. You never asked me why, and then didn’t read or comprehend when I explained. At this point, I really don’t care what you think about it. Sorry, but a dog can be kicked only so many times before he stops expecting something else.
I didn’t make this thread about me. In fact, you started a thread about me that I didn’t make about me. I’m a prolific poster, and most of the threads (including Pit threads) don’t become about me.
The statistics and facts say you’re wrong. That thread was all about you and Bryan Eckers. Look at the posting stats. (Click the post count.) Your and his posts outnumbered me nearly two to one. That thread was about PRR. I was communicating with PRR. We reached an agreement and an understanding. I’m curious as to how you rationalize accusing me of thread shitting when what you did in that thread — posting to interfere in our free volition — was itself thread shitting, wasn’t it?
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]
And there you have the fairest summary of the issue. I agree completely with Jim – make up your own minds, but don’t prejudge either way until you’ve observed the board’s dynamics for a while.
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Okay, fair enough. I’m not trying to judge anyone. I’m just one of those knee-jerk mediators. It’s in my blood. I’m the one always waving my hands screaming, “Can’t we all just get along?”
Thank you (both) for your respectful replies.
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
Okay, fair enough. I’m not trying to judge anyone. I’m just one of those knee-jerk mediators. It’s in my blood. I’m the one always waving my hands screaming, “Can’t we all just get along?”
Thank you (both) for your respectful replies.
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You do realize, I’m sure, that it’s people like you who tend to get run over by the semis barrelling in both directions, right?
I promise always to strive toward respectful replies, but can’t guarantee it. At times I lose my temper and my ugly side peeps out, often to my regret. What Exit, as far as I can tell, doesn’t have an ugly side. 
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Frankly, you’ve become more annoying than PRR, at least to me personally. You seem to have a fixation on me and my affairs that is downright creepy. You never asked me why, and then didn’t read or comprehend when I explained. At this point, I really don’t care what you think about it. Sorry, but a dog can be kicked only so many times before he stops expecting something else.
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I should feel honored I suppose. 
Sorry, but you are not going to get better out of me about you than what I posted. I resisted posting in this thread but I thought olivesmarch4th questions deserved an answer.
I will not bother debating you on your interpretation of past events. You already know we will not agree. Strange you parse everything that I said except the portion where I suggested the new posters keep an open mind.
I probably should have ignored this thread, but I did find it like picking a scab.
I suspect you would not mind me as much if I just cursed you out and called you bad names. Instead I coldly and calmly question you and you say I annoy you more than the poster you paid $500 to go away. That might say more about you than anything I could say.
Here, I will throw you a bone.
You know what Liberal, you are a pretty twisted individual.
On Preview: olivesmarch4th, cool, I knew I liked you for some reason. I am another knee-jerk mediator. I normally try for the “can’t we all get along idea”. I was defending PRR as I saw his positive points. I have done the same for other posters that friends can’t stand. I tried to stop the buy out as it disturbed me and I thought it would cost me two posters that I enjoyed reading. I think I was correct.
Jim
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
Can someone point me to some specific post history (not counting the prr thing) that would indicate why people are so righteously pissed off at this guy, to the point of denouncing not just his opinions but him as a human being? If my short time on this board has resulted in me just being totally ignorant of The Truth, then I’m willing to be educated.
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Some notable landmarks in the history of Libertarian/Liberal:
Libertarian proposes SDMB awards, but ends up taking it way too seriously when they don’t go over too well:
Nov 16, 2001
Looking for volunteers for SDMB APAS
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=99389&page=1&pp=50
Follow-up:
My Character Weakness
Liberal takes a break from the board:
March 19, 2002
For the record
This “break” lasted less than two weeks.
Liberal says he will stay out of the Pit:
March 3, 2005
For the sake of growth…
This lasted a few weeks.
Liberal plays the “death card” and is suspended:
August 18, 2005
Liberal has been suspended
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=330807&page=1&pp=50
Liberal returns from suspension:
September 27, 2005
**Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba **
Liberal begs the administration to ban him:
March 26, 2006
Request for suspension or ban
This lasted about 6 months.
There’s much much more; these were just easy to find.
[QUOTE=Fear Itself]
How would you know, with enough certainty to deny PRR the wager? What if you are wrong? Isn’t the fact that QSS is still here proof that he has a different IP address than PRR? How else would you know for sure?
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Liberal is not the one who decides. I am the one who decides. If he finds my judgment unacceptable, he can demand that I pay him back his money. PRR’s money is under my absolute control.
The general opinion of the board on the subject is of no interest to me. I will deal on the subject with the individuals known on this board as Liberal and Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber, but I will do so off the board.
I have to say, the principals have been entirely willing to accept these limits.
Tris
[QUOTE=Zoe]
Many of us wouldn’t be around without those double digit chances. Not all of us are as level headed, clear thinking and even tempered as you. Maybe we don’t control our words as well as you do and need more leeway.
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Perhaps you’ve had a few incidents yourself, but you’re certainly not in Liberal’s ballpark. At least as far as I am aware, you are nowhere near double digits.
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
“Can’t we all just get along?”
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Having observed people for the past 41 years, I’ve formulated the following:
Q.E.D.'s law: As the size of a given population increases, the probability of the answer to this question, as it pertains to that population, being “No” rapidly approaches unity.
[QUOTE=Colibri]
Some notable landmarks in the history of Libertarian/Liberal:
Libertarian proposes SDMB awards, but ends up taking it way too seriously when they don’t go over too well:
Nov 16, 2001
Looking for volunteers for SDMB APAS
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=99389&page=1&pp=50
Follow-up:
My Character Weakness
Liberal takes a break from the board:
March 19, 2002
For the record
This “break” lasted less than two weeks.
Liberal says he will stay out of the Pit:
March 3, 2005
For the sake of growth…
This lasted a few weeks.
Liberal plays the “death card” and is suspended:
August 18, 2005
Liberal has been suspended
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=330807&page=1&pp=50
Liberal returns from suspension:
September 27, 2005
**Comments on ATMB remarks from Tuba **
Liberal begs the administration to ban him:
March 26, 2006
Request for suspension or ban
This lasted about 6 months.
There’s much much more; these were just easy to find.
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You forgot the Fred Phelps thing.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
You forgot the Fred Phelps thing.
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No, I remembered that. I left it out because it was a bit hard to find and link to the various convolutions.
But here’s part of it:
An Appeal For Leadership
But this doesn’t begin to tell the full story of that episode.
[QUOTE=Triskadecamus]
If he finds my judgment unacceptable, he can demand that I pay him back his money.
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If our judgments were to differ, I would adjust mine to yours. There’s no person on earth I trust more than you.
[QUOTE=Colibri]
No, I remembered that. I left it out because it was a bit hard to find and link to the various convolutions.
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Fair enough. Out of curiosity, has there ever been anything good?
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, has there ever been anything good?
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Yes, yes there has. There has been many good things. I applauded you recently for your moving post about the Cherokee.
Jim
[QUOTE=Liberal]
You forgot the Fred Phelps thing.
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And Poland.
Sheesh, what a stroll down memory lane that was, Colibri, strewn with emotional wreckage, drama and desperate cries for attention.
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
Yes, yes there has. There has been many good things. I applauded you recently for your moving post about the Cherokee.
Jim
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Then you should enjoy this one.
[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]
Sheesh, what a stroll down memory lane that was, Colibri, strewn with emotional wreckage, drama and desperate cries for attention.
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You’ve just described nearly the entirety of daytime television.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, has there ever been anything good?
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You can be a witty and intelligent poster. It’s really a shame that your lack of self control leads you into these episodes so often.
In my personal opinion, although you have some positive qualities, I believe that overall you have had a negative effect on the board. If it were up to me, I would have banned you long ago for your disruptive tendencies. (Actually, I think that would have been better both for you and the board.) I was greatly disappointed to see you come back after your self-imposed exile. It was like seeing an alcoholic who has promised to stay on the wagon come striding back into a bar and start hoisting a few.
[QUOTE=RedFury]
Or in lieu of that, since you are now a member, make some heavy use of the search function.
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Yeah, um, no. I am hardly going to go about doing a hunt for ‘evidence’ about why I should dislike a poster, thanks. All I can say is that so far, yes, in my noobie time here, I’ve observed several of these ‘discussions’ and the people thinking they made points against him did not, in my estimation.
Hello? It’s a board. As in little pixels on a page. I’m not seeing large, bright red print, or flashing lights, or anything other than words. You have an ‘ignore’ button, right?
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
Quiddity, I pretty much love you forever. And I agree with you.
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It’s looking like we think alike in these issues.
Me, too.
[QUOTE=Jodi]
Well, by God, those us who have been here longer than three months had better knuckle right down and start trying to impress you, then. While we work diligently on that, you might want to consider lowering your lofty Seat of Judgment in case you fall out of it. From its current height it looks like it might be a long hard fall.
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I ‘judge’ people by how they treat other people. If that gets up your nose, well too bad. I don’t like mean. I hated Seinfeld because it was mean. I think mean is not funny and I agree with the Dalai Lama who says the world world would be a far better place if people developed ‘warm hearts’.
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
Can someone point me to some specific post history (not counting the prr thing) that would indicate why people are so righteously pissed off at this guy, to the point of denouncing not just his opinions but him as a human being? If my short time on this board has resulted in me just being totally ignorant of The Truth, then I’m willing to be educated.
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I tend to think ‘The Truth’ very rarely equates with hate.
[QUOTE=What Exit?]
He is well known for thread shitting, in the middle of an ongoing debate he announced he was dying, he posted a weird ATMB thread demanding to be banned
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So? I’ve seen that on other boards where posters feel they are having difficulty staying away and have asked to be banned. I’ve considered it, myself. These stupid forums are too danged interesting. Still not a capital offense. Your case, sir, is sorely lacking in hard evidence.
See, I didn’t see that. I saw him challenge PRR, get slanged by same, and he threw down a gauntlet, which PRR picked up and kept swatting Liberal with. I’ve already spent a lot of time disagreeing with you on this but you seem unable to let. it. go.
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]
Rather, this is a situation where people who have interacted with this particular person over a considerable stretch of time will inevitably have a more informed perspective based on the accumulated evidence from those interactions.
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I’m still not getting how this justifies savaging someone for every single post he makes.
Thanks and likewise
[QUOTE=Waverly]
And would you dare to assume that I’m not reacting to what I have seen? And what I’ve seen is Lib metaphorically stroking off on this board for years.
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Do you agree that that is your opinion and not an incontrovertible fact?
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]
It’s in my blood. I’m the one always waving my hands screaming, “Can’t we all just get along?”
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Yep, me too.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
Then you should enjoy this one.
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That was not as moving but it was a hell of a rant. I even agree with most of it, just not as strongly by a long shot.
Wow, I take that was what was being referenced when they spoke about your well known opinion of Jackson. Very strong. I do not hate even Cheney that much.
Jim