To My Lovely Wife.......

Where? Show me in my original OP where I brought him into this Pit rant?

Calm down? The only post that I posted for the sake of bitching was the OP. On every other one I was just trying to defend my position.

Good hell guy, you sure have a funny way of showing it. If I were your wife, and thank God I am not, and read the little gem of your OP, there would be some serious consideration as to changing your current marital status.

I personally could give a shit about what you do or don’t do for Christmas, but your vulgar words and disrespect you have shown here for your wife is discusting. I won’t leave your son out of it - get help with your issues before your vile opinion of your wife rubs off on him.

I don’t think anyone is making any assumptions of the lack of respect and love you have for your wife. You have made it painfully clear to us all.

Actually Brainiac, you certainly did bring him in right here in your OP:

My thanks, Diane, for quoting the relevant sentence.

Amp:

“Fuck you” is rarely considered defense of one’s position.

I wouldn’t call your language over the top. I think we would have to visit some of the more learned posts in other forums to find anything truly “over the top”.

I would characterize your comments as juvenile, vitriolic, unfortunate, hateful and uneducated.

I know, you will say I am making assumptions again, but actually I am judging you by your use of the language…something that people do to you everyday.

This is from your OP. I am guessing milliAmp is the little one right?

Seems you forgot that you brought him into it. Almost BLAMING him that you have to put up a tree.

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I am really disappointed that reprise’s posts got lost in this shuffle, they were absolutely great. As a parent, I wish I was doing that for my kids, and maybe now I will. As a Methodist, I am used to our rituals, and I always wondered if it would be cool to fast for Ramadan, or go to temple during High Holy Days.

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Also, damned if I didn’t see myself in some of these posts. I think that my family’s rituals are the best, and I don’t think anything of my mother-in-law’s. So I usually insist (read whine) that we do things the way my family does them. How childish and unfair. Way to put others first, Deb…

The reason I wrote the OP in the first was so that I could get my anger off of my chest. That way I wouldn’t go home and blow up at my wife. Don’t any of you here ever get angry? Don’t any of you here ever do something stupid that you normally wouldn’t do while calmed down to blow off steam?

And yes, I think that a lot of people here are wrong for assuming that my wife and son are suffering just from this one thread. If you guys think you can automatically know someone from a pit rant, a place where people usually are not at their best mentally, then I feel sorry for you.

Go read your hateful OP then come back and convince us that you respect your wife.

Honestly, Amp?
No.
I would not express anger the way you did in the OP, and I seriously doubt, from the subsequent posts, that others here would either.
I think that if anyone is trashy and not to be respected, it’s YOU, not anyone in your family.
Sure, people blow off steam sometimes. But you could have vented this all in Word and then deleted it. The fact that
you posted here, presumably wanting your OP to be read and responded to, indicates to me that you expected some sort
of sympathy or unuderstanding, unless you are just a troll.

News flash, buddy:
It doesn’t look like you’re going to get much commiserating here. Make no mistake. No one is impressed with your immature, self-centered,slanderous, vicious, whiny graffiti.
Some may defend your right to not enjoy the holidays, but
I doubt anyone is going to defend the monstrous ASSHOLE that came out of you in your OP, and, yes, it is not too much of a stretch to believe that your attitude in your OP
goes home with you too.

Oh yeah, and another thing, tough guy.
Why don’t you get some balls, go home and show this thread
to your wife, and THEN come back and try to convince us that
the OP has nothing to do with your relationship.

Amp, I realize you were being deliberately over-the-top in your OP. People tend to spice up their OP’s in the Pit. I hope your wife never visits this place, though, because I can guarantee you that her feelings would be terribly hurt if she were to ever read what you wrote. Or she might just take a sledgehammer to your gonads. You Puerto Ricans are known for your tempers, you know. :wink:

Anyway, back to your rant. I’ve been married for :cough: 13 years, so I have a bit of experience in the matter. Let me offer you some advice: Chill. If enduring a Secret Santa exchange is the worst you have to bear, you are one lucky hombre.

Let me ask you this: Does MIL or SIL ever watch milliAmp so you and the Mrs. can enjoy an evening out? If you broke your leg, would your dear MIL come and bring you some arroz y pollo? If you were ever arrested, would your BIL break the witness’ legs so he couldn’t testify against you? (Or is that just an Italian tradition?) Anyway, consider participating in this exchange as payback to them for loving, feeding, and supporting you, Mrs. Amp, and MilliAmp.

In the grand scheme of things, this is hardly worth the effort it takes to resist it. Just go out, by a couple lottery tickets, put them in a Santa mug, and call it a day. That works like a charm in my family.

I do blow off steam. But I never ever ever have thoughts with the level of malice and bile you reserve for your wife and her family. There is a difference, and it is very unfortunate you do not see it.

I don’t think anyone here says they KNOW you. All we know is how you represent yourself here. We know what you present to us. I think others have put it better than I just what face you have put on for us. And from the look of it, I am glad I DONT know you!

Amp, just so you know, I have said some terrible things about my husband, MIL and others while venting my spleen. It was not indicative of the sum of my relationship with any of them.

Any girl who hasn’t called her husband a fuckhead (or some such thing) to a girlfriend is welcome to hit me with a big rock.

Of course I love him, we have a wonderful life with beautiful children and a lot of joy. We also have our moments, but they are moments. The problem with message boards is that people can only judge your words, not your feelings or actions IRL. Sure, you were over the top, and probably wouldn’t post it now, but everybody gets riled up occasionally.

My SO tells me she’s in the backyard finding a nice one for you right now.

Everybody does get riled up occasionally, but it’s what we do when we’re riled up that shows our character.
(ps - I’ve never called my fiance a “xxxxhead” to my girlfriends either. I get exasperated with him, but I just don’t think things like that about him. It’s like there’s a line there that I don’t want to cross.)

Of course I’ve vented to my friends about my husband. Sometimes I use absolutely foul language. Even though he pisses me off from time to time doesn’t mean I don’t love him and I’m sure Amp loves his wife too. I wouldn’t start making assumptions about his relationship with his wife based on this one post. I don’t care if Amp used bad language or over-the-top comments. It’s the Pit! This is where you’re supposed to go to vent and flame.

Geez, if we start stoning people on the content of one freaking post, I imagine that some of our most respected and prolific posters are going to find themselves in the hot seat too.

AMP

There are two days of the year that I dread.

Schutzenfest & Christmas at the Club.

Hubby is a memeber of a German club.

I have attended every one of these things for 13 years. (there have been more parties and the like when Mr. Ujest was the president of the club. That was the longest year of my life.)

Every year it is, to me, a rerun of the previous year,the only thing that differs is the weather for Schutzenfest which is in August. ( could be hot or hotter than hell or muggy and hotter and hell. Bugs are always an issue too.)The food is always the same (greasy german fare)which gives me a stomach ache.

Christmas is always a laugh-riot because the same man who 50 years ago was a Lt. in the German Army and still thinks he’s in command barks **BARKS ** orders into the microphone that it looks like he’s giving the equipment a hummer. Not only does he scare the children year after year, he sounds like Charlie Brown’s school teacher. Oh, and it’s indoors and everyone smokes, which is disgusting.

I see these people twice a year. I can’t remember their names. I have ZERO in common with them. My SIL, who has been a member her entire life bails on the summer gatherings for some piss ant excuse or another. so I have no one to talk to there that is under 40/30/20. Now I just play with my kids the entire time.

But I do it for my husband. Yes, I bitch, moan and do the " oh pity me" sighs. But he loves socializing with these people that he grew up with.

I mingle. I endure. I manage to have a nice time. I do shots of pepto to quell my stomach after knockwurst and bratwurst.

All in all, each time is maybe four hours I have to endure.

A small price to pay considering my husband has to put up with …well *me *
Grow up.

I don’t care about the language. I think, however, that the OP was indicative of a great deal of vitriol. I said as much.

Nu, so who’s stoning? I think Amp’s acting like an ass, and he sounds like a divorce might be a great choice. Anyhoo, it’s hardly one post, m’dear.

Hi Amp! How are you mate? You look as if you need cheering up.

Why not link here to join the Straight Dope Secret Santa list

It’s really good you see, because you send someone else a - Ow! THAT HURT!

Ow! Am I bleeding? You sure I’m not bleeding?

Ow! owowowow
[sub]last time I try to be nice to HIM[/sub]

Redboss

Amp, as someone who swears a lot and has started a number of pit threads herself, I totally get the “blowing off steam” thing, and the use of rude language here because hey, you can do that here and it’s often applauded.

But obviously (judging by other comments) I am not the only one who thinks that cursing out one’s spouse is, well, really hostile and possibly indicative of feelings that are not just innocently goofing around in the pit. Granted all marriages and families are different, but I’m telling you this so you know where some of us are coming from and why some people are on your case.

I mean, if my husband said “fuck you and fuck your family” to me, either to my face or to his buddies or to a message board, I don’t know what I’d do. Probably seek marriage counseling. I mean, we just don’t talk that way to each other. We’ll gladly talk that way about Anita Bryant or the person who cuts us off in traffic, but not each other, and sure as hell not our families.

Maybe that’s okay in your marriage. But it’s pretty foreign to some of us, and it’s hard not to read it in the worst way.

And as a general rule… I keep my major complaints about my spouse to myself. They are not for my parents or girlfriends or a message board to snicker over. He’s my best friend, so why would I do that? I might gripe about his gum wrappers or hatred of movie previews, but I don’t write anything I wouldn’t be comfortable having him read. That latter thing is probably a good rule for many married people on the board: don’t write something you wouldn’t want them to read.