To the dingleberry who brought his baby in the movie theater

What’s with the Rex assault anyhow? He said kids don’t belong at wedding receptions, not that they should be broiled and served as the entree at the midnight buffet.

I was 18 when I went to my first wedding (not my wedding, my first someone else’s hitching). In our neck of the woods/culture wedings were adult events. I didn’t require therapy to heal my rent self esteem. As a teen I made a (very)small fortune babysitting for people off to human bonding rituals. Kids at weddings may be customary in some cultures and regions but it is certainly not in all. Yet again, it is at the pleasure of the B&G.

Back on topic:showing slasher flicks in the kiddie room at receptions-yea or nay?

I lost my first attempt at response in a board slowdown, so I’ll just start anew. I don’t hide the fact that I dislike children, that’s my personal preference, and I’m not forcing it upon you. Somebody called me the new “kids czar”, though I fail to see how that description is apt. Am I the kids’ Russian monarch, or do I hold a cabinet-level position in our executive department in charge of kids?

The reason I made that post about wedding receptions is because of a misunderstanding between one poster and a response to his post. In one post, it appeared that the reception was clearly being discussed. The person who responded seemed to be talking about the ceremony. I posted to perhaps clear it up, by showing that there’s a distinction between those two events.

If the bride and groom really intend the ENTIRE evening to be a family affair, they are welcome to do so. However, it has been a tacit understanding at the receptions I’ve personally attended that the kids leave sometime after the buffet dinner and before it gets very late.

Think of what goes on late night at alot of receptions. The drunken uncles are heatedly debating the local roadwork construction timetables, the drunken cousins are hooking each other up with friends of the opposite sex, the semi-sober folks are trying to enjoy the dance floor and the jazz ensemble…that’s hard to do if you have to keep looking around to make sure there are no kids listening or watching or running willy-nilly about on their fifth sugar high of the evening. It’s uncomfortable for the adults who have to worry about their language use and randy behaviour while kids are around. Adults shouldn’t have to curb their behaviour because one couple’s hyperactive kid is still running around peskering people at midnight.

So, from my personal experience, I figured that the polite thing to do was send the kids home before the adult portion of the evening. By all means include them earlier in the evening so they don’t feel left out, but there’s a time and place for children.

I suspect that part of the disagreement is age. I’m in my mid-20’s, I’ve been to the receptions for brides and grooms in their mid-20’s. The bride and groom invite their friends and throw a big expensive party designed as a celebration for people in their mid-20’s. Children tend to interfere somewhat with the things people my age like to do at parties. When the bride and groom are in their 40’s and already have children, nephews, nieces, etc., that couple might prefer a family-oriented reception. Whatever their age, the couple surely has the power to structure the reception as they will. Still, are they inviting the kids out of politeness or because some guests cannot attend without the kids, or do they really want the kids there?

It’s just a family thing, Rex. Unless you’re eloping, you are generally going to have a wedding with family children in attendence.

I’ve been to about five weddings. All had children. All had children there all night.

I’m not going to keep hammering you about not liking kids, because I think the idea of sending the kids off with early-to-bed types during the reception isn’t such a bad idea.

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I too, am in my mid-20s. I have been to my own wedding and the wedding of a good friend of mine. Both were alcohol free.

This was not by choice on my part. Ask any of the NY dopers and they’ll tell you my drinking habits put fish to shame.
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I think the “Rex assault” is because he is generalizing from his experiences to a blanket condemnation of parents and children. He dropped little gems like:

and

Both of which were off-topic childish rants. The issue was whether parents should bring kids to movies. RexDart dropped those lovely tidbits yet when owlofcreamcheese posted off- topic he was shut down.

Now, were RexDart’s comments the most immature rants we’ve seen? Certainly not, but he deserved to be called out for making dumbass generalizations. Especially when he goes from general rants to Miss Manners (and, no RexDart, I’m not saying you really are Miss Manners, but it was clever of you to use the literal meaning of czar.)

The problem is that you thought your feelings on the matter should be applied as a universal rule. They shouldn’t. You said that kids shouldn’t be invited. That merely reflects your bias and limited experiences. That’s what I was calling you on.

The latest installment of “Generalization Theatre”. And you’re wrong again. If the bride and groom invite kids then it is the responsibility of the adults to curb their behavior. The bride and groom have made the decision, and it’s their decision to make. If you don’t like the fact that you can’t yell “fuck” and feel up the bridesmaid in public that’s really your problem.

Well, are they inviting the drunken cousins out of politeness or do they really want them there? Again, you’re letting your dislike of kids get in the way of clear thinking on the subject. If a bride and groom want to invite kids to the reception, you have no input in the decision and the decision isn’t wrong just because you don’t like it.

They might have invited kids “just to be polite” but you might have been invited “just to be polite”.

I don’t have a problem with kids at weddings, but most of the weddings I’ve attended have been in rural Pennsylvania with farm-folk. The alcohol is mainly beer and the dancing is mainly polka–and polka is something all ages can have a blast doing.

I do have a problem with noisy/uncontrolled kids in movie theaters, regular theaters, and restaurants. As long as the child is behaving himself, though, I think all those are valuable experiences.

Look, Zoff, I’ve conceded that the bride and groom have control over the format of the reception and admitted that I have a natural dislike of children, tending to avoid them.

I did not try to force my vision of what a reception should be on anyone else because at the time I stated that, I was under the impression that “send the kids home early” was a universal ettiquete rule. Since people have informed me differently I have agreed, that being the case, with the apparent consensus that the couple controls the issue. Since this is the Pit, and not GQ, I figure it’s pretty innocuous to suggest my personal preference and opinion that receptions be kid free. Others think kids are essential, and they’re just expressing their opinions too. There is probably a cultural gap here, as I suggested related to age, that explains the differing opinions.

When I talk about adults and having to curb behaviour, I’m talking about conversation, flirtation, etc. You of course pick out the most extreme examples of yelling F*CK at the top of one’s voice and feeling up the bridesmaid. When you take a moderate statement and draw it to the greatest extreme, that’s called being funny. I applaud you for it, we might have more of a sense of humour in common than you think.

My tongue-in-cheek anti-kid mini-rants were admittedly a little OT, but they were inspired by and still somewhat connected to the on-topic tales of woe vis a vie children in theatres. Now I’ve only been active on this board for the last month, but I have to imagine that the ability to seem personally offended by minor deviations off-topic in a Pit thread is not a skill you would wish to cultivate. If you weren’t somehow personally offended, why post with the specific intent to justify the “Rex assault”?

RexDart, I’m glad that you can see that its up to the B&G to decide ultimately if kids should be there. Whether its out of politeness or not is irrelevant.

And now that I know you don’t like kids, I can see where all your points are coming from.

Back to the main topic…owlofcreamcheese, unfortunately your friend’s main job now is childrearing. If she needs to go out for some reason, and the destination isn’t child-friendly, why not offer to babysit?

I’m curious: how do you decide what movies get italicised and which get bolded?

LOL, this is how I know a thread has gotten out of hand. OOCC’s post wasn’t the main topic, it was injected in the middle of the thread and steered conversation away for a time, much like my own post about wedding receptions did.

No, I’m not saying we shouldn’t discuss it, I’m simply amused by the fact that this thread has taken so many twists and turns that we can’t even identify the main topic anymore.

Continue as you were :slight_smile:

I wasn’t offended. I thought your comments were ridiculous so I called you on them. I had no intention of starting a “Rex assault”. I was merely the first to point out the absurdity of parts of your argument. Then other posters realized how absurd your arguments were and commented on it. There was no grand conspiracy. Just individual posters commenting on a poorly thought out position. Happens all the time.

And the number of responses you received informed you that you were wrong in your assumptions. That sounds like a lesson learned more than an “assault”.

Whoa, sit down and catch your breath there, buddy. :rolleyes:

slight hijack. I’m a responsible parent with a big ol’ credit card. When I go home, and I will visit the US in July, China Bambina will be dining out with me pretty much every time we go out. Now that often means that my wife and I switch off and China Bambina gets to see the outside of the restaurant. Fair enough, that comes with being a parent.

It may also mean that she is her own happy little 2 year old self, and I will gladly tell anyone that gets offended to go blow themselves. IMHO, a happy two year old is less obnoxious than a happy investment banker bragging about his latest deal. I’ll decide when she is out of line, and I guarantee she will not be as loud as that old fart who had too much to drink an hour ago. Respectful requests from neighboring diners and/or the manager will be accorded what they are due, and anyone with a bug up their ass about any kid regardless of behavior in a decent restaurant gets zero consideration from me.

I never go to movies any more myself because the jerk that talks and the mobile phones going off ruin it much faster for me than a crying baby.

Rexdart, I actually was personally offended by your anti-kid mini-rant, because one of my pet peeves is people who literally cannot comprehend how other people can like things that they don’t (and I’m not the only one annoyed by that- please see Techchick’s rant re Pink Floyd). All parents lie to themselves and pretend that they like their kids when they really want to commit suicide at the idea of not being able to head out to the bar at the drop of a hat? C’mon, you gotta see how insulting that is. But I swallowed it up and didn’t say anything because I figure you were using hyperbole for humor’s sake and didn’t really mean it.

A baby crying at a theater will ruin the whole experience- nobody can hear the movie. A baby crying at a reception will barely be heard over the conversation, the band or dj, the drunken uncles, the clanking silverware. All fucks and feeling up aside, how does the presence of children affect conversation or flirtation at a gathering of 50 or 300 people? Why would you have to watch what you say, just because of kids on the dance floor or at the next table? How would that prevent any single, childless people from hooking up?

Here’s a wedding pick-up trick to use if you ever accidently get seated near children- play peek-a-boo with a baby at the church or teach a little kid the naked-guy-in-the-spoon trick at dinner. All the woman who see this will think that you are adorable.

Suckit RexDart. You forget that those “mewling brats” will one day be wiping up your shitty backside when you’re languishing in a nursing home. Yeah, there’s places children belong and where they don’t belong. But a parent’s job is not spent running away from places where assholes like you might lurk. If I want to take my kid out for a meal at a nice restaurant…wrap up your food in a doggy bag and go fuck yourself.

OwlofCreamCheese, tell your friend to hang on. I found myself the single mother at 25 and boy did it suck sometimes. And yes I got depressed watching my friends go out all the time, while I stayed at home. And by all means, babysit for her once in a while…she’s gonna need it. It’ll pass though. Children don’t stay helpless forever, and doors will open for her.

Also, when my son and I were catching fireflies last night, I realized that that moment more than made up for 7 years of not getting drunk on the weekends with my friends in a smoky bar.

What’s the naked guy in the spoon trick?

Oh, and thanks, sugaree, for having nice, well thought out replies in this thread rather than the “they’re my kids and I’ll take them wherever I want, fucker” type replies.

That was a stupid comment. That should be a very important part of a parents job.

And I feel bad about that whole “assholes like you” comment. I have no idea whether you are one or not. Now I feel all shy that I said it.

Sorry!

Well, I saw you comment

Well, it seems we have a new “kids czar” on the boards. Here’s an idea. Why don’t we let the bride and groom decide? Are you worried they’re not as bitter – I mean intelligent – as you?
…as you insulting Rex, not as thoughtful rebuttal. And BTW, why are people saying on one hand 'let the bride and groom decide if they want kids at their wedding", then making snide comments about those future brides and grooms who would decide to not have kids present?

Perhaps we can join the others here? to discuss the kids at weddings issue?

Well, I saw you comment

Well, it seems we have a new “kids czar” on the boards. Here’s an idea. Why don’t we let the bride and groom decide? Are you worried they’re not as bitter – I mean intelligent – as you?
…as you insulting Rex, not as thoughtful rebuttal. And BTW, why are people saying on one hand 'let the bride and groom decide if they want kids at their wedding", then making snide comments about those future brides and grooms who would decide to not have kids present?

Perhaps we can join the others here? to discuss the kids at weddings issue?

Take off your rings, if you are wearing any. Make a fist. Hold the convex side of a spoon between the second knuckles of your big finger and ring finger. The stem should run parallel to your forearm. Wiggle your pinky and pointer finger.

What you see in the spoon is the naked guy’s butt, back, and shoulder blades, and his arms are moving up and down. He is bent over in the shower looking for the soap.

Why yes, I am the cool aunt. At least until puberty hits.

I’m the cool aunt who took the 14 year old nephew to the South Park movie. During the 15 foot high talking clitoris scene I leaned over and said 'tell NO ONE I took you to this" :smiley:

And yes, someone else brought a pair of grade school boys in with them. I’m sure those lads really enjoyed the music!

(Damn! Now I have the Uncle Fcker* song stuck in my head)