Trolls R Us redux [Now the argument clinic]

Indeed. This whole thread has gone to shit. This is supposed to be a thread for calling out trolls and assholes like damuriajashi and DemonTree, not bickering with them.

Just to be clear.

Calling someone a liar in ATMB is NOT PERMITTED.

Calling someone a racist (or other insult) in ATMB is NOT PERMITTED.

I tend to be a bit forgiving of the rules in ATMB, since, unlike other forums, ATMB is how people get issues resolved, and it is much more important to me that the issues be resolved than it is for everyone to be forced to abide by the rules. A lot of folks come into ATMB pissed off about something that they think is a problem, and I want those people to be able to say what their issue is or how they feel about it without fear of getting their posting privileges suspended for it.

You, unfortunately, seemed to be there only to stir up shit. But underneath it all it seemed to me that you actually did have a point to make. It would have been nice if you had made it. Instead, all you did was drive the thread further off the rails, and instead of anything getting resolved, all that happened was the thread was closed.

While I am fairly forgiving about warnings in ATMB (as long as you are actively trying to actually resolve something), coming into ATMB purely for entertainment purposes or to fan the flames is one sure way to earn yourself a warning in that forum. If your intent is only to stir up shit, then keep your posts in the Pit, as that WILL get you a warning in ATMB.

No, you did not get anything more than a mod note, but your behavior was absolutely NOT what we want to see in ATMB. Don’t be proud of yourself for not getting a warning, because you almost did, and in ATMB, that means you were really far off the rails from where you needed to be. If I didn’t think that underneath all of your crap there was an actual issue that the board needed to be resolved, you would have received a warning. You were that close.

I very strongly recommend that you not repeat that sort of behavior in ATMB.

Fair. I’ve been thinking about pitting these two nitwits for awhile, but as this sentence shows, my invectivefu isn’t particularly strong, and I’ve got bigger things to worry about. When TweedleDam and TweedleTree showed up in this thread, I vented what spleen I have, and the slapfight commenced.

My bad. Spleen vented. Peace out.

Solid.

No problem. It’s all too easy to get carried away when provoked by assholes.

Do you see anyone rushing to your defense? Of course not. And if I was distorting your words in this woke echo chamber, there would be a dogpile of people telling me that you obviously meant something much less racist. The silence is fucking deafening.

Some of it is. I stopped referring to it as toxic because it seemed to bother you but because you seem to prefer the term toxic, I will employ that term rather than “counterproductive” Fewer keystrokes.

You can lie to yourself all you want about the effects of culture on achievement but I am not obligated to agree with your fantasy world just to soothe your ego especially when you are trying to discriminate against people that look like me. You’re a racist and hiding behind your black relatives is pretty shameful. Do your black relatives know how racist you are? Do they appreciate it because at least you are being racist in their favor?

I could just as easily ask you, if we flipped the races so that black kids were displacing native americans, would you be more or less bothered by it? I don’t think we should address racism with more racism.

I don’t subscribe to a hierarchy of race. That’s something that racists do. Too many woke folks have a hierarchy of race in their minds and things that are good for races higher up on the hierarchy at the expense of races lower down on the hierarchy make for good policy in their minds.

Cite? Or is this just another anyone that disagrees with me is a racist post?

I called him stupid after I realized he was an english speaker. English is not my first langauge so I try to make sure I am not insulting someone who probably knows 3 or 4 languages for not knowing this one. GIGO on the other hand is stupid. I suspect he knows he is stupid and has known this most of his life. He gloms onto the thoughts and opinoions of others and parades them around as his own in order to present the facsimile of adequacy.

I am an immigrant myself, engllish is not my first language. I think GIGO is stupid because english ISN’T its his primary language and he is STILL shit at it.

Troll? I’m trolling people for calling out their racism?

Perhaps if you look at the thread to see who started the bullshit it might change your attitude. The fact of the matter is that petty sniping is tolerated and perhaps it is a facially neutral policy but when one opinion is far more popular than the other, the sniping get overwhelming.

Right because I started it.

Well that’s enough for now. I’ll come back after you’ve had an opportunity to reflect on why your racism is not acceptable even if you think you are doing it in the interests of social justice.

I’m gonna go ahead and put your racist ass on ignore now.

Now he will rant about how I am perpetuating the echo chamber. Mother fucker is so predictable I really don’t need to actually see his drivel, do I l?

I did read through the entire thread. If you’d like, I can change your mod note into a warning and we’ll see what that does to your attitude.

What a shame. It’s the only place I (and many others, I suspect) will even deign to un-hide and read your posts. Here, at least, you have a voice and can be heard.

You racist fuck.

Kinda sad that you continue to use that ploy when several guys have posted that they agree with him and me.

And as for the rest and about the “opinoinons” (sic from damur) of others, you do really think that ignoring cites is ok, that only shows cowardice and ignorance when you just dismiss them with unsupported allegations directed to the scholars or people that are involved directly with the issue. Not a smart way to deal with what they report.

That will remain as evidence of the projection of the inadequacies coming from you and your ilk.

At the risk of talking about something in the Pit that should be discussed in ATMB (it is, after all, being talked about here): what do you think it’s going to do to his attitude to leave it as a note? Is this dude acting like someone who’s going to take a look at his posting and say, “Y’know what, I’m being a jerk, I should figure out how to talk about things more honestly”?

He’s already been suspended, right? I’m not seeing an improvement. The most charitable interpretation is that he’s really this dumb.

Just checking - what would that issue be?

I don’t need any defense – but it appears that pretty much every poster in the thread, aside from perhaps 1, agrees with me.

Fuck you, you racist piece of shit, for slandering my family and millions more strangers whom you’ve never met, because of the color of their skin. What a worthless, racist piece of shit you’re showing yourself to be.

And the most likely is that he thinks everyone else is.

Well, lessee here … among many other things (I haven’t really been following along closely) @damuriajashi dumped on @GIGObuster for being “stupid”, on @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness for being “racist”, on @iiandyiiii for being a “toxic racist”, on @engineer_comp_geek for modding him in ATMB, and on me for calling him a trolling asshole.

As far as I can tell, his view is that everyone here except him is either stupid or a racist asshole, or both. I suspect this view will be reinforced when he is, finally and inevitably, banned.

We’re not just an echo chamber; we are a RACIST echochamber! :roll_eyes:

And I come back to your post and … the shitshow we’re now sandwiching.

I was really hoping you guys would move all this to the other thread.

This world of ours, it is a vale of tears.

You forgot “woke”.