Unreasonable Standards For Every Body Part, Only $9.95!

This is almost as bad as the (relatively) new Hymen Reconstruction Surgery. Pay thousands of dollars, go through the pain and danger of surgery and recovery, all for a 1 TIME USE BODY PART?!?!?!?!?!?

Gotta Love America :rolleyes:

Women comment on penii all the time; What’s so wrong with a little pink-taco commentary? I am no snatchologist, but the description of an ideal ‘female-bits’ above seems pretty spot-on.

I hate the way my vulva looks. I would get it fixed to fit that site’s “ideal” if I could afford it (what they describe is my ideal too).

Well, I did a whois on this site, and it appears to be real.



Registrant:

   Female Pumping

   Vancouver, British Columbia 

   Canada
   Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com)

   Domain Name: VAGINAINSTITUTE.COM

      Created on: 13-Aug-02

      Expires on: 13-Aug-03

      Last Updated on: 30-Aug-02
   Administrative Contact:

      D., Rebecca  rebecca@femalepumping.net

      Female Pumping

      Vancouver, British Columbia

      Canada

   Technical Contact:

      D., Rebecca  rebecca@femalepumping.net

      Female Pumping

      Vancouver, British Columbia 

      Canada

      


I’ve removed most of the contact info, as I’m not sure what the specific rules are on posting information such as that, though it is freely available. I figured better safe than sorry.

From this info, she also runs a similar site called female pumping, which offers similar services. I’m not going to link to it, as there may be naughty bits involved.

It doesn’t seem to be a joke. I’m just going to chalk it up to getting rich off of others insecurities. How wonderful…

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You know what scares me about that description? :frowning: That is how virginal vaginas look. (Mine at least closely resembled that description once.) The “geography” of the vagina changes the longer a woman is sexually active, and once she gives birth…

The protruding part, could be a sign of “fallen bladder”. blush I have this problem, the urelogist said it was from childbirth.

That site is truly sick. :mad:

Oh, just cry me a fucking river.

Jesus H fucking Christ. You, a woman, have the fucking gall to complain that someone is putting unrealistic unexpectations upon YOUR sexual organs???

I have never, ever, ever, ever heard a guy complain about the appearance of their girlfriend’s vagina. I’ve never heard of a guy dropping a girl over the shape of her vulva. Heck, I don’t even know what a “vulva” looks like, you ladies have so many names for shit down there you’d need a medical dictionary to explain it. It’s not a big fucking deal, I don’t care who has a website charging $9.95 to find out about it, it’s irrelevant. Even if this isn’t a joke site, it’s still so far out of any mainstream ideas or comments that it has no impact on anything whatsoever.

And I’m just about fed up with “whine, whine, whine, media expectations about our bodies, waaaaaaaah!!!” threads. You don’t see men on here every other day complaining about how every guy in a porno has an 8 inch wang, but that does just as much to influence opinions, and on a more intimate subject, than any media influence on women’s bodies. Women see other women who don’t match those expectations all the time, just taking a walk down the street. Most of us men make it a point not to look at other people’s penises, so we see nothing but porn penises most of our lives.

Ladies, and I don’t necessarily mean to OP in particular, just hop down off your crosses, toss away your crown of thorns, and drop the persecution complex over the media.

Yeah. We see other women who are thinner than us. Cuter than us. Sexier than us. More fun than us. We are CONSTANTLY bombarded with air-brushed photos of models whose bodies do not exist in the real world. Models on billboards advertising beer. A dom chick on a billboard for a local radio station morning show, for pete’s sake. Fuck, I get to see cute pictures everywhere from hotmail.com’s ads to the front page of the local magazine. I do know they’re not all real, and I like my body well enough, but it took me a while to get here. And I’m slender, with a good build. Imagine someone who sees herself as chubby dealing with all this, if you would.

I recognize where you’re coming from here - some people have unrealistic ideas of the average male penis - but in truth, that seems to mostly be MALES (probably only straight ones. I imagine gay guys have more realistic expecations, in dealing with other guys dicks). Also, I really doubt you see as many penii per day as we see glorified hot chicks. If you do, you have a pretty serious addiction :stuck_out_tongue:

My point was that you see real, live women all the time, the actual people not the girls in the ads, who take any overhyped expectations you might have back down to earth. You can see as many average looking people as you wish whenever you want to. Look around you at work. Park outside the convenience store and watch people go in and out. Basically anywhere you are, except for at a high class strip joint perhaps, you’re going to see people who do not match any higher standards you may be seeing on billboards, because 50% of all women are below average in some attribute. So the power of the media portrayal is not as great as you think, because we have everyday reminders that it’s fantasy, not fact. I see aliens and dragons and vampires on TV too, I don’t believe in them :wink:

Penises are something you don’t see on any sort of media (except maybe HBO’s Real Sex) unless they are pretty gosh darn big. That was the difference I was pointing out.

Joke or porn front. I enjoyed the survey questions, though: “When you are home alone, do you strip naked and run around rubbing your vulva on furnishings or go close to windows?

How about

I always thought that that was a myth…

I just cannot contemplate why anyone would willingly undergo any sort of cosmetic surgery, unless it were of a reconstructive nature. And that goes quadruple for anything involving a reproductive organ. OUCH!

If answer is “yes”, please send your address to…

This site may be a joke, but plastic surgery on vulvas is not. It’s real. It started as an outgrowth of doctors trying to repair women’s vulvas that had been damaged by childbirth and proceedures often done during childbirth. Nowadays, you can even get yourself “revirginized” if it’s that important to you (and one shouldn’t laugh, because it is important to some women, especially those who were sexually abused as children and feel damaged, or who come from cultures where this sort of thing is emphasized)

I can’t give a cite, but I’m getting this info from a non-satirical discussion with a plastic surgeon.

That, and, unlike too hot chick, there is such a thing as a penis that’s too big. Men seem to think it’d be great to be bigger: but at least according to my local sexologist, the most common complaint she recieves from women about penis size is being too big (or, indeed, wasting way too much time on penises in general in bed). Granted, she deals much more often with inexperienced people, and bigger can get better if used correctly, in more creative positions. But average size is generally perfect for most applications if used correctly itself. Women have it much worse in that the standards for beauty are much farther away from the average or even the main distribution.

Of course, some female features can get too extreme too. Most men really don’t, in reality, like frail, bony ladies. And I’ll never understand the fetish for breasts the size of watermelons.

I was amused by the quote, underneath a smiling woman: “Both men and women have questions about the female vagina.” They could have added “… but men’s questions are considerably more stupid and inappropriate.”

I’m not insecure about penis size myself, but I have to laugh at the quote about gay men having more realistic expectations. I’m sure there are the female equivalent of “size queens” but I’m betting it’s a much smaller percentage than it is for gay men.

Part of the problem is that males in straight porn aren’t terribly important, really. They’re there so the women have something to work on. Nobody cares if they’re ugly, fat, middle-aged, whatever (look at Ron Jeremy, for God’s sake!). Men in gay porn are it. They’re the stars, the cream of the crop, the center of attention. And every single top man in gay porn has a penis larger than 7" (you’ll occasionally see a smaller bottom, but not too often).

Realistic expectations, my ass…

I can see where these people are coming from inasmuch as if I’m looking at, say, a hot chick in a porno mag, then yes, some pussies look cuter than others. However, let me reassure the OP and any other concerned women on this thread that I, and IMO most men, would no more expect women to have corrective surgery performed on their pussies than women would expect men to be circumcised because “it’s neater” or “it’s more hygenic” or “it makes them a better lover”.

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Oh.

Well, anyway, you know what I mean :slight_smile:

Heh… Yes, indeed, how dare men have any opinions at all? :rolleyes:

I’ve read this too. Let me assure you that it’s all bullshit. Nobody cares but the plastic surgeon.

Actually, from different things I’ve read and heard (please don’t ask for cites, I definitely did NOT document this), that’s another vanity going on here in L.A. New York, too. And I remember this doctor (term used loosely) who specialized in the vagina, talking about how many women saw him about “camel toe” and actually having the surgery so they could wear jeans without worry. Stupid stuff like that. Depressing, really. But, some people actually do worry about it.

Um, “camel toe” comes from wearing pants that are too small and tight. It doesn’t require surgery, just more careful shopping.

RexDart, you bring up a good point. There are many women who would rather just bitch about unrealistic ideals than do anything about them. But is this not the way of everything? I understand there is a lot of pressure on men in the penis department. But as you pointed out, unless you watch a lot of porn, no one is being constantly bombarded with images of penes. Women are being constantly bombarded with images of “what we should look like” in terms of everything from weight to hairstyle. So while I appreciate what you’re saying, I must respectfully submit that there is quite a difference in what beauty standards decree for men and women. Men are more-or-less accepted as is, while women are commonly expected to engage in a serious bit of body modification in order to live up to the standard.

Interestingly enough, I find that most of this pressure comes from members of the same sex. Most women I know (myself included) couldn’t care less about the size/shape of a partner’s penis. Most men apparently couldn’t care less about their partner’s vulva. It seems like it is other women and other men who are doing the judging. Or at least, how we perceive them to judge.

I have always been leery of plastic surgery. I have never believed all of one’s social and self-esteem problems can be solved with a scalpel. I know there are many people out there who’ve had surgery and swear it has made the world a better place for them, but I always have to ask whether they could just have saved all that time, money, and pain by simply accepting who they are. We are often our own harshest judge. I think having surgery simply so you can live up to unreasonable standards set by a faceless body of so-called experts is ridiculous and points to far larger and deeper-seated problems than one’s vulva. If your biggest worry in this life is that your hoo-ha doesn’t quite match that chick from Hustler’s, consider yourself blessed and lucky.

Hey, did you guys know you can buy your own peguin?