Vegetarians Are Intolerant Jerks [Moved from BBQ Pit]

Hey, you said it, not me… :smiley:

oh…

and on the tofu front, on the lateste episode of Top Chef, one of the top contenders was a tofu dish. The judges were highly impressed. I suspect you could find the recipe if you were internet savy. My theory? He just wrapped in bacon and covered it with melted cheese…

I have to be honest with you, I’m not a huge fan of tofu unless it’s made really well. I can’t reproduce it at home the way they make it in Chinese and Thai restaurants, so I don’t even try anymore. It’s just not a huge favorite of mine. Vegetarian cuisine is far from defined by tofu. But I will look for the Top Chef recipe, and thanks for the tip.

Tofu is OK now and again. We fry it in peanut oil and add it to interesting stir frys.

The big thing I’ve found with getting better Chinese/Thai style tofu is (after you’ve done any marinating you want to), to take the tofu cubes and cover them in cornstarch. That’s what gives it the super crispy outside.

What he said.

Before anything you should wrap the tofu in paper towels and set something heavy on top of it for at least half an hour. Tofu is like a sponge, only it comes pre-saturated with water. When you press out some of the water, it’s able to soak up some of whatever you’re marinading it in. Something simple like soy sauce and rice vinegar would do the trick. Then cube it, cover in cornstarch, and place them on a hot pan with vegetable oil, let them cook for a bit on each side to fry up (don’t just toss them around, let them cook on one side, flip, cook, flip, cook, flip, etc).

I treat tofu like chicken, another bland protein. Marinading is almost always required, and to get that “chinese food” taste you have to marinade it in soy sauce and coat it in cornstarch. Like chicken, smaller pieces are better than bigger pieces. The inside of tofu will always be squishy, so the smaller the pieces are, the less “inside” there is to squish.

No, it’s nothing like that at all.

We are not talking about religion, which is very different from the conscious decision to stop eating meat because of the animal suffering it causes.

In the case of eating meat and of wife beating, we are talking about

  1. Causing pain to a sentient being
  2. Having countries where the vast majority of people do it and it’s considered OK

So, if you go to Saudi Arabia, and it’s the norm for men to hit their wives, I would bet that otherwise-normal and kind men might strike their wives once in a while.

Even if we can’t brand them evil, since they were brought up like that, and it’s the norm, it’s still clear that, within our value system, what they are doing is wrong, and it would be a step forward for their culture to acknowledge that it is wrong to beat their wives.

Similarly, while vegetarians can’t brand meat-eaters as evil, since they were brought up like that, and it’s the norm, it’s still clear that, within the value system of ethics-based vegetarians, what they are doing is wrong, and it would be a step forward for culture to acknowledge that it is wrong to eat meat.

MMMMMmmmm veal…

We could well be talking about religion, though, because many Christians, for example, believe that those who do not accept Jesus as their savior are eternally damned. That’s as harsh a judgment as any vegetarian might make about a meat eater. I wonder if you go around giving religious people as hard a time as you give vegetarians based on your ideas of how they’re judging you. You could be just about any religion and have this issue with folks of any other religion, or atheists. That’s my point-- anyone who makes an ethical choice is, by definition, raising those ethics above other people’s. Thus, one wonders why you’re making such a fuss about the ethical judgments of vegetarians, but not about all the other ethical judgments people make every day, many of which might view your lifestyle negatively.

For someone who is not a vegetarian, you feel free to make an awful lot of assumptions about what vegetarians think, or ought to think. Why do you care so much?

ETA: rolandgunslinger = douchebag

You veggos aren’t a very tolerant lot are you? Besides, I like Veal with with a few vegetables on the side. Best of both worlds.

I think we’ve been a hell of a lot more tolerant than the meat eaters in this thread. You came in here and did exactly what everyone’s been bitching about, and not in a humorous way like billfish. Just, you know, to be a dick. So yeah, I’m intolerant of taunting. Has nothing to do with being a vegetarian and everything to do with recognizing someone’s douchebaggery.

hahahahahahahhahahah!

Thank you for continuing to prove my point.

Yeah you do have a point. Put a hat on and it wont show.

Please don’t quit your day job. Assuming you have one, of course.

This omnivore would like to ask you to cite that the vegetarians have not been (in general) more polite than the omnivores in this thread.

I’d actually be even more interested to find that there are any carnivores.

Of course I have a job. Been there for 15 years. We had a hot dog cookout last week. I even put coleslaw on mine.

Frank, your my site. Nicest guy on the board.

Clearly it’s not as a stand up comedian, because you’re not funny, and if you were going to be honest, you’d have to admit that you came into this thread to be an asshole about your dietary choices. You’re not really contributing anything much to the discussion but antagonism where it’s been largely civil. I wish a mod would move this thread to GD to discourage this sort of thread shitting.

I am contributing to this thread. I stated I like veal and you called me a douchbag. Your the one who brought up veal, not me in post 158.